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Re:Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant modal sh... by eru on Sunday October 13, 2024 @10:57AM (#41828563)
What social contract? That's a convenient fiction, but no one ever agreed to any social contract anywhere.

My adopted home of Singapore goes a lot harder on private initiative than Thatcher and Reagan ever dreamed off. And thanks to that, and some other factors, they went from third world to first world (or arguably zeroth world) in less than a generation.

> The core problem with free markets being used as a mechanism to settle all societies ills is that theory ignores natural monopolies. You can't have a car parking space and a children's park in the same place: you must make a choice.

You might want to read up on how https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_monopoly

What you are describing here has nothing to do with a 'natural monopoly'.

Funny enough, most places in the US have outrageous mandatory minimum parking space requirements. A free market would most likely provide less street parking. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parking_mandates and especially https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_High_Cost_of_Free_Parking

Revenue means people are willing to pay for something, something they value. So it's not the be-and-end-all for how to run your city, but it's better than many other ways political decisions are made. (And better than whatever political decision procedure leads to mandatory minimum parking requirements, IMHO.)

Re:Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant modal sh... by tremon on Sunday October 13, 2024 @12:13PM (#41829192)
The fact that you didn't explicitly opt-in to it before you were born does not mean there is no implicit social contract between you and your fellow citizens.
Re:Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant modal sh... by shswkna on Sunday October 13, 2024 @01:32PM (#41829835)
Without trying to ridicule you, asking “what social contract?” In this kind of discussion is like a first year university student asking “what’s a fraction?” in first year maths classes.

An entire section of philosophy is built on this question alone, and why there is such a thing as a social contract.

Re:Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant modal sh... by eru on Monday October 14, 2024 @05:12AM (#41835700)
> An entire section of philosophy is built on this question alone, and why there is such a thing as a social contract.

The existence of the towering edifice of Catholic theology doesn't disprove Hinduism. (Nor does it prove Catholicism.)

Re:Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant modal sh... by rstuart4133 on Sunday October 13, 2024 @04:55PM (#41831509)
> What social contract? That's a convenient fiction, but no one ever agreed to any social contract anywhere. My adopted home of Singapore goes a lot harder on private initiative than Thatcher and Reagan ever dreamed off.

Do you chew gum when you are at home in Singapore? No, you don't, because it's illegal. Did you agree to that, were even you given a choice? No, of course not.

Singapore is more authoritarian than most liberal democracies. That means you do as your told. That's the social contract. If you disagree with the people in power to loudly, you got to rot in jail. https://www.smh.com.au/world/lee-kuan-yew-a-towering-figure-...

As it happens, Singapore got lucky. The people in charge are good at running a country efficiently. In particular, they didn't line their own pockets too aggressively - certainly not in a way that was out of line with liberal democracies. The Singapore it's an outlier compared to other authoritarian countries. Generally, once politicians eliminate the competition, they use their control to milk the economy for all they are worth.

Re:Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant modal sh... by eru on Monday October 14, 2024 @05:10AM (#41835692)
> Do you chew gum when you are at home in Singapore? No, you don't, because it's illegal. Did you agree to that, were even you given a choice? No, of course not.

It's more like a license than a contract.

> Singapore is more authoritarian than most liberal democracies.

The Singaporean government is a smaller part of life than in most other places. Much less red tape to fill out before you are allowed to do anything and regulations are simpler.

Yes, there are some weird regulations about how you can say things. But they affect the form more than the substance. You are pretty much allowed to say whatever you want, just not however you want it.

Yes, Singapore got lucky in that they had (and have) a hardworking population, and competent leadership.

Why do you insist that Singapore is authoritarian? We have free and fair elections, that are regularly observed to be so by international organisations.

Re:Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant modal sh... by fennecfoxy on Monday October 14, 2024 @05:59AM (#41835952)
Well I'm not going back to Singapore until they treat gay men like myself better. I've been there; Singapore is a private money pit/playground for Western and Asian high business, much like Dubai.
Re:Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant modal sh... by eru on Monday October 14, 2024 @09:07AM (#41837154)
When have you last been? They have recently improved the de jure treatment of gay people. (The de facto treatment hasn't changed.)

I agree that the laws about homosexuality are weird, but they are also democratic: it's broadly in line with what the population wants as far as I can tell.

Re:Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant modal sh... by consteval on Monday October 14, 2024 @12:38PM (#41839173)
That's not what democratic means. If the people did not vote on them, it's not democratic, even if it appears as though they would hypothetically vote for it.
Re:Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant modal sh... by eru on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @06:17AM (#41847001)
Huh? The people voted for the government that implemented the policy. Just like with every policy in any representative democracy anywhere around the world.