Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant modal shift from road to rail

Re:Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant modal sh... by xienze on Sunday October 13, 2024 @04:41AM (#41826243)

Aren’t roads necessary from a “last mile” perspective for like, all sorts of things a functioning country needs? Last time I checked trains don’t run directly from farms to grocery stores and so we need trucks and therefore roads in order to get food to consumers, among other things.

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Re:Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant modal sh... by bluGill on Sunday October 13, 2024 @07:33AM (#41827073)

Much less roads. Humans can walk - and for health should.

a few trucks are still needed but trucks used to haul are a minoricy of traffic

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Re:Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant modal sh... by SECProto on Sunday October 13, 2024 @11:22AM (#41828783)

> Aren’t roads necessary from a “last mile” perspective for like, all sorts of things a functioning country needs?

Yup, absolutely! But at least where I've worked on road design, the number of lanes on a local road is governed pretty much solely by the number of cars (trucks just have a larger impact on asphalt structure choices and, balance with the impacts of freeze-thaw, resurfacing schedule).

But this is about longer distance travel - trains generally being used for intercity travel vs highways. Even still, I don't argue against road subsidization, but rather in favour of more train subsidization.

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Re:Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant modal sh... by rakoo on Sunday October 13, 2024 @02:04PM (#41830115)

They're necessary because cities are built around the idea that everything must be done through a car, so roads become necessary. It's a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy. The underlying discussion is all about urban planning and how we want societies to organize space.

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