Re:Are retrocomputers best left on or off?
by amelius on Saturday October 12, 2024 @07:50AM
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Doesn't an UPS have similar isolation?
Re:Are retrocomputers best left on or off?
by mschuster91 on Saturday October 12, 2024 @12:03PM
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A online UPS has in line: a rectifier with its transformer and output-smoothing capacitors, a huuuge battery, surge capacitors, power transistors, another transformer and more capacitors. And only then comes the actual device with its PSU.
It takes an awful lot of power to smash through these multiple layers of insulation and bypass all the capacitors, at least if the PSU is properly designed (specifically, clearance between the various power / ground domains).
In contrast, Ethernet transformers are tiny small little things.
Re:Are retrocomputers best left on or off?
by amelius on Saturday October 12, 2024 @03:18PM
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Yes, but only the transformers will provide the galvanic isolation. And if the windings are not physically separated then you are basically in the same situation.
Re:Are retrocomputers best left on or off?
by formerly_proven on Sunday October 13, 2024 @06:40AM
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Most UPS that you’d plug into a socket aren’t online/double conversion though, they’re line-interactive.
Typically the Ethernet shield is also only alibi-insulated from the device's ground. Sometimes not at all. (Personally it's always funny to me to see the fat 1kV/1nF capacitor from the shield to the device ground and then the metal of the socket is just bunched up with basically no clearance against the metal case or something like that). This can of course be avoided by simply using unshielded cable.