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Re:Understanding the Limitations of Mathematical Reasoning i... by hintymad on Friday October 11, 2024 @05:12PM (#41813800)
> I do think that SOTA LLMs like GPT-4o perform about as good as high school graduates in America with average intelligence.

Is this because the questions used in high school exams in the US are too simple, or do they have too similar patterns in the training data? I tried really simple but novel questions that required true understanding of the underlying math concepts, and the results were consistently bad. I also tried questions at the level of entrance exams of high school in China, and the results were equally bad. It was quite clear that LLM didn't understand math. It could match some patterns, but such pattern match could be useful to only skilled students.

Re:Understanding the Limitations of Mathematical Reasoning i... by MVissers on Friday October 11, 2024 @05:15PM (#41813828)
Which model? The field moves so fast it’s hard to validate statements like this without that info.

O1-preview?

Re:Understanding the Limitations of Mathematical Reasoning i... by hintymad on Friday October 11, 2024 @05:20PM (#41813859)
GPT-4o. I tried only a few samples on o1-preview, and the results were bad. That did not have any statistical significance, though
Re:Understanding the Limitations of Mathematical Reasoning i... by asey on Saturday October 12, 2024 @03:43AM (#41817213)
Could you give an example?