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Re:How long til we're all on Ozempic? by zarathustreal on Friday October 11, 2024 @02:14PM (#41811822)
Right, and the associated cultural impact of increasing hedonism
Re:How long til we're all on Ozempic? by cortesoft on Friday October 11, 2024 @03:25PM (#41812669)
I am confused as to how a drug that makes you want to consume less would increase hedonism? It is basically an anti-hedonism drug?
Re:How long til we're all on Ozempic? by BoingBoomTschak on Saturday October 12, 2024 @04:54AM (#41817634)
Hedonism is a philosophy that posits that pleasure is the sole objective good and thus pain something bad.

This whole thing is about trying to find shortcuts to get to the pleasure of having a nice body while circumventing the pain and effort.

Pain and efforts are important, they forge character like nothing else. If you want to live in a world where adult-children simply take their soma to get what they want, you're just not thinking about the consequences.

Re:How long til we're all on Ozempic? by cortesoft on Saturday October 12, 2024 @08:21PM (#41824022)
Do you feel this way about everything? Like you shouldn't take an aspirin because you should feel the pain of your headache? You shouldn't wear shoes because you need to feel the pain of the rocks under your feet?

Why is this particular thing the bad thing?

Re:How long til we're all on Ozempic? by BoingBoomTschak on Sunday October 13, 2024 @05:45PM (#41831923)
Important != superlative need. I mean, I know this is just rhetoric drivel, but I'm bored enough to reply. My post was clearly about a certain type of pain that the mind knows is a necessary path to achieving a stronger mind.

Also, about headaches and more generally physical pain that you know is only temporary and not a sign of radical bodily malfunction, I say yes: enduring a reasonable amount is important to develop a tolerance to it and willpower.

What I'm saying isn't new anyway, everybody knows some amount of struggle is needed to temper character and not fall to the most insidious poison of our times: constant comfort.