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Re:Virtualizing iOS on Apple Silicon by rtpg on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @12:18AM (#41773779)
You say that but companies routinely pay projects like Circle CI similar orders of magnitudes for chunkier CI builds (one place I know having builds take 30 minutes.... with 64 shards. Basically paying like 5-10 bucks per commit)

You still gotta do hardware management yourself in other words but CI is good business!

Re:Virtualizing iOS on Apple Silicon by eru on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @04:06AM (#41774841)
> Basically paying like 5-10 bucks per commit

Which isn't actually all that much, compared to the amount you pay your developers.

Re:Virtualizing iOS on Apple Silicon by buginprod on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @06:39AM (#41775829)
And not much compared to a bug in prod or waiting 3 weeks for a release (the value proposition of CI/CD)

Still, saving cloud spend by making the build faster or using self hosted runners is probably worth it.

Re:Virtualizing iOS on Apple Silicon by eru on Wednesday October 09, 2024 @12:40AM (#41784560)
Definitely, if you can cut costs, do it.
Re:Virtualizing iOS on Apple Silicon by t-writescode on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @01:26PM (#41779650)
An additional several thousand dollars per month for any moderately-sized team, especially if you've got a bunch of microservices, sounds very expensive to me, and would probably get axed quickly by any devops team I can think of that's actively working on reducing their costs.
Re:Virtualizing iOS on Apple Silicon by rtpg on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @07:11PM (#41782747)
I mean if you're paying 5+ digits a month on CI it starts being reasonable to say "maybe I should do things to lower the absolute cost of this". 5 dollars time a big enough number is real money!
Re:Virtualizing iOS on Apple Silicon by stuckkeys on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @07:24PM (#41782848)
Is there an alternative service that offers similar service? I am not sure if I have ever seen anything else come close to what these guys do. I recall them going into battle with apple and it looks like they had won. But it sucks that we do not have any open source solution for iOS or Android to emulate the OS for these devices.
Re:Virtualizing iOS on Apple Silicon by teknolog on Tuesday October 08, 2024 @09:09PM (#41783480)
I remember we paid Circle CI ungodly amounts to host a dozen trash can Mac Pros to run our iOS CI. Early Swift versions caused huge spikes in build times.