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Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by latexr on Saturday October 05, 2024 @10:12AM (#41750009)
Distorting the old Chinese proverb, “The best time to stop taking Sam Altman at his word was the first time he opened his mouth. The second best time is now”. We’ve known he’s a scammer for a long time.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/06/1048981/worldcoi...

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-...

Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by 0x1ceb00da on Saturday October 05, 2024 @10:56AM (#41750312)
Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by latexr on Saturday October 05, 2024 @12:34PM (#41751046)
Technically true, but also doesn’t advance the conversation in any way. Eventually no one will exist or care about anything, but until then everyone will have to live with the decisions and apathy of those who came before.

https://www.newyorker.com/cartoon/a16995

Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by stonethrowaway on Saturday October 05, 2024 @10:28AM (#41750118)
I would love to read a solid exposé of Worldcoin, but I don’t think I will get that from Buzzfeed or from The Atlantic. Both seemed to be agenda driven and hot headed. I’d like a more impartial breakdown ala AP-style news reporting.
Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by rmltn on Saturday October 05, 2024 @10:43AM (#41750222)
One of the above links is from the MIT Technology Review ...
Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by throwintothesea on Saturday October 05, 2024 @11:25AM (#41750515)
The Atlantic doesn't have an ideological center, although you won't find, like... fascism in there (sorry if you're disappointed). It's also been around for 167 years, so if you could point to its "agenda", that would be great.

Idk have you considered that maybe YOU'RE wrong?

Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by CPLX on Saturday October 05, 2024 @12:00PM (#41750789)
The Atlantic is run by Jeffrey Goldberg and owned by Laurene Powell Jobs.

Of course these people have agendas, it’s not exactly a secret.

Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by chirau on Saturday October 05, 2024 @12:14PM (#41750907)
It has to be owned by someone, that does not make it agenda driven. Who would you rather have it owned by so that it is not agenda driven?
Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by CPLX on Saturday October 05, 2024 @03:36PM (#41752341)
It’s not a hypothetical we aren’t assuming spherical cows today. Those specific people have a long and public track record that answers this question.

It’s not a secret, like I said. There are plenty of editors out there who have never decided to concoct ludicrous stories of Al Queda bases in the Amazon to name one example.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2002/10/28/in-the-party-o...

Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by chirau on Saturday October 05, 2024 @06:42PM (#41753447)
you still have not answered my question... who should own that you will believe it is impartial?

Should I assume bias and impartiality for your Day One conference simply by who you are and who is behind you? The Washington Post is owned by Jeff Bezos, your opinion on that?

Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by CPLX on Saturday October 05, 2024 @10:38PM (#41754333)
My own involvement in media is not impartial and is not intended to be.

My opinion on your question is that Jeff Bezos purchased the Washington Post to advance his interests, and that the Washington Post indeed has an agenda which is broadly aligned with what’s commonly referred to as “the establishment.”

And absolutely nothing I’m saying is particularly insightful or controversial, it’s obvious at a glance.

As for your original question about who should own media to make it objective, I don’t have the answer to that one.

But I do know that there’s no person with a billion dollars who doesn’t have the agenda of preserving a social order consistent with them being able to continue to enjoy that billion dollars.

Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by robertlagrant on Saturday October 05, 2024 @11:26AM (#41750530)
> although you won't find, like... fascism in there (sorry if you're disappointed)

I don't understand how HN can hit such highs sometimes, but also host nonsense like this.

Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by ctoth on Saturday October 05, 2024 @12:37PM (#41751065)
> The Atlantic doesn't have an ideological center,

Morning, boys. How’s the water?

Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by stonethrowaway on Saturday October 05, 2024 @02:06PM (#41751716)
Your comment immediately gave me a chuckle so thank you for that.

I find it interesting among its readership that Atlantic’s prose can hide so well what an absolute shitrag of propaganda it really is.

Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by latexr on Saturday October 05, 2024 @12:27PM (#41751007)
> I don’t think I will get that from Buzzfeed

BuzzFeed News is not BuzzFeed. They were a serious news website¹ staffed by multiple investigative journalists, including a Pulitzer winner heading that division. They received plenty of awards and recognition.² It is indeed a shame they shared a name with BuzzFeed and that no doubt didn’t help, but it does not detract from their work.

> or from The Atlantic.

There was no Atlantic link. The other source was MIT Technology Review.

> I’d like a more impartial breakdown ala AP-style news reporting.

The Associated Press did report on it³, and the focus was on the privacy implications too. The other time they reported on it⁴ was to announce Spain banned it for privacy concerns.

¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BuzzFeed_News

² https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BuzzFeed_News#Awards_and_recog...

³ https://apnews.com/article/worldcoin-cryptocurrency-sam-altm...

⁴ https://apnews.com/article/worldcoin-spain-eyeballs-privacy-...

Re:It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word by stonethrowaway on Saturday October 05, 2024 @02:02PM (#41751691)
Thank you. I’ll take a look. The Atlantic link I’m referring to is the actual HN article link of the OP, not of the GP.