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Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by authorfly on Monday September 30, 2024 @02:58AM (#41694295)
Different strokes for different folks...

We all seek different kinds of quality; I don't find Peruns videos to have any quality except volume. He reads bullet points he has prepared, and makes predictable dad jokes in monotone, re-uses and reruns the same points, icons, slides, etc. Just personally, I find it really samey and some of the reporting has been delayed so much it's entirely detached from the ground by the time he releases. It's a format that allows converting dense information and theory to hour long videos, without examples or intrigue.

Personally, I prefer watching analysis/sitrep updates with the geolocations/clips from the front/strategic analysis which uses more of a presentation (e.g. using icons well and sparingly). Going through several clips from the front and reasoning about offensives, reasons, and locations is seems equally difficult to replicate as Peruns videos, which rely on information density.

I do however love Hardcore history - he adds emotion and intrigue!

I agree with your overall hope for quality and different approaches still remaining stand out from AI generated alternatives.

Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by richardw on Monday September 30, 2024 @03:32AM (#41694486)
I like a range of the Ukraine coverage. From stuff that comes in fast to the weekly roundup-with-analysis. E.g. Suchomimus has his own humour and angle on things, but if you don’t have a unique sense of humour or delivery then it’s easier for an AI to replace you.

Give it a year or three, up to the minute AI generated sitrep pulling in related media clips and adding commentary…not that hard to imagine.

Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by grugagag on Monday September 30, 2024 @08:54AM (#41696589)
> Give it a year or three, up to the minute AI generated sitrep pulling in related media clips and adding commentary…not that hard to imagine.

But why? Isn’t there enough content generated by humans? As a tool of research AI is great in helping people do whatever they do but having that automated away generating content by itself is next to trash in my book, pure waste. Just like unsolicited pamphlets thrown at your door you pick up in the morning to throw in the bin. Pure waste.

Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by caulk on Monday September 30, 2024 @03:49AM (#41694595)
Drifting off topic, but do you have any examples of those analysis/sitrep content creators you prefer?
Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by lasc4r on Monday September 30, 2024 @06:07AM (#41695418)
Not who you asked, but the daily ones I sometimes watch are Reporting From Ukraine and Denys Davydov.
Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by richardw on Monday September 30, 2024 @06:50AM (#41695668)
Not your parent commenter but I like:

https://m.youtube.com/@militaryandhistory

https://m.youtube.com/@suchomimus9921

https://m.youtube.com/@WardCarroll

Fav is probably Suchomimus right now. Updated faster, shorter reports. I feel like I get the info sooner after it happens.

Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by formerly_proven on Monday September 30, 2024 @07:27AM (#41695933)
Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by authorfly on Monday September 30, 2024 @09:34AM (#41696915)
All of the other commentators have replied with a good diverse set of YouTubers and included ones with biases from both sides; I'd recommend the ones they have linked. Some (take note of the ones that release information quicker) might be more biased or more prone to reporting murky information than others.
Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by SirHumphrey on Monday September 30, 2024 @04:55AM (#41694974)
I think the main problem with Peruns' videos are that they are videos. I run a little program on my home-lab that turns them into podcasts and I find that I enjoy them far more because I need to be less engaged with a podcast to still find them enjoyable. (Also, I gave up on being up to date with Ukraine situation, since up to date information is almost always wrong. I am happy to be a week or a 14 days behind if the information I am getting is less wrong).

I like Hardcore history very much, but I think it would be far worse in a video form.

Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by Torkel on Monday September 30, 2024 @05:25AM (#41695172)
Just turn off the screen with youtube video playing and there's no difference from a podcast?

I listen to Perun at the gym every week, audio only.

Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by bogtog on Monday September 30, 2024 @07:39AM (#41696020)
Perun is peak podcast-like YouTube. In the gym, I just keep my screen on to share my YouTube tastes with the world and sometimes peak at some visuals
Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by lasc4r on Monday September 30, 2024 @06:03AM (#41695399)
That's a paid service that some people balk at.
Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by maest on Monday September 30, 2024 @06:40AM (#41695626)
PipePipe on Android does it for free. (Or New pipe or some other *Pipe players)
Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by nordsieck on Monday September 30, 2024 @06:19AM (#41695491)
> That's a paid service that some people balk at.

AFAIK, it's only a paid feature to play video in the background.

Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by satvikpendem on Monday September 30, 2024 @06:45AM (#41695653)
It doesn't have to be paid, YouTube on the mobile browser can do it for free.
Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by posterboy on Monday September 30, 2024 @06:59AM (#41695729)
on firefox
Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by richardw on Monday September 30, 2024 @05:37AM (#41695254)
I’d also like a podcast. I usually walk around with the video in my pocket to be honest. Audio is 80% of the value in his case.
Re:NotebookLM's automatically generated podcasts are surpris... by graemep on Monday September 30, 2024 @09:37AM (#41696941)
> He reads bullet points he has prepared, and makes predictable dad jokes in monotone, re-uses and reruns the same points, icons, slides, etc.

The presentation is a matter of taste (I like it better than you do), but the content is very informative and insightful.

Its not really about what is happening at the frontline right now. Its not its aim. Its for people who want dense information and analysis. The state of the Ukrainian and Russian economies (subjects of recent Perun videos) does not change daily or weekly.