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Re:Gavin Newsom vetoes SB 1047 by 0_____0 on Sunday September 29, 2024 @07:46PM (#41691955)
The data you're showing doesn't appear to differentiate between "Can read English" and "Can read in some language". Big immigrant population, same with New York. Having grown up in California I can tell you that there aren't 28% of kids coming out of public school who can't read anything.

Edit to add: my own hometown had a lot of people who couldn't speak English. Lots of elderly mothers of Chinese immigrants whose adult children were in STEM and whose own kids were headed to uni. Not to say that's representative, but consider that a single percentage stat won't give you an accurate picture of what's going on.

Re:Gavin Newsom vetoes SB 1047 by kortilla on Sunday September 29, 2024 @08:07PM (#41692066)
Not being able to read English in the US is bad though. It makes you a very inefficient citizen even though you can get by. Being literate in Chinese and not being able to read or even speak English is far worse than an illiterate person that can speak English in day to day interactions.
Re:Gavin Newsom vetoes SB 1047 by swasheck on Sunday September 29, 2024 @08:20PM (#41692134)
which is why the statistics need to be careful annotated. lacking literacy at all is a different dimension than lacking fluency the national lingua franca
Re:Gavin Newsom vetoes SB 1047 by t-3 on Sunday September 29, 2024 @08:29PM (#41692195)
The US has no official language. There are fluency requirements for the naturalized citizenship test, but those can be waived with 20 years of permanent residency. Citizens are under no obligation to be efficient for the sake of the government.
Re:Gavin Newsom vetoes SB 1047 by kortilla on Monday September 30, 2024 @03:25AM (#41694438)
Yes, there is no official language. There is also no official rule that you shouldn’t be an asshole to everyone you interact with.

It’s still easy to be a shitty member of a community without breaking any laws. I would never move to a country permanently regardless of official language status if I couldn’t speak the language required to ask where something is in the grocery store.

Re:Gavin Newsom vetoes SB 1047 by cma on Sunday September 29, 2024 @09:43PM (#41692650)
The California tech industry will solve any concerns with this, we'll have Babelfish soon enough.
Re:Gavin Newsom vetoes SB 1047 by telotortium on Monday September 30, 2024 @02:58AM (#41694294)
Did you go to school in Oakland or Central Valley? That’s where most of the illiterate children are going to school. I’ve never heard of a Chinese student in the US growing up illiterate, even if their parents don’t know English at all.
Re:Gavin Newsom vetoes SB 1047 by 0_____0 on Monday September 30, 2024 @02:20PM (#41700308)
South Bay. And I didn't specify but I meant that the people who immigrated from abroad were not English speakers - younger than 50 or so even if born abroad all seemed to be at least proficient in English.

We had lots of Hispanic kids but not many who were super super fresh to the country. I'm sure the central valley was a whole different ball game.