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Re:Hacking Kia: Remotely Controlling Cars with Just a Licens... by coding123 on Friday September 27, 2024 @12:32AM (#41666272)
Yesterday at Costco I saw something on the back of a black jeep that was something like "Pedophiles that are executed won't repeat #DeathPenalty". Smiled and walked on.
Re:Hacking Kia: Remotely Controlling Cars with Just a Licens... by solraph on Friday September 27, 2024 @01:15AM (#41666505)
Even for the most heinous crimes, the death penalty has one massive glaring practical problem.

What if the sentenced person is actually innocent? No amount of apologies or recompensation will bring that person back.

Re:Hacking Kia: Remotely Controlling Cars with Just a Licens... by a-french-anon on Friday September 27, 2024 @03:53AM (#41667494)
That's not a practical but a moral one. Practically speaking, the errors would be extremely rare and the gains for the whole society massive.
Re:Hacking Kia: Remotely Controlling Cars with Just a Licens... by dpassens on Friday September 27, 2024 @04:20AM (#41667651)
How is any error rate, no matter how small, acceptable when it comes to killing people?
Re:Hacking Kia: Remotely Controlling Cars with Just a Licens... by SideburnsOfDoom on Friday September 27, 2024 @04:24AM (#41667669)
Parent poster a-french-anon may be wrong or at least is making unsubstantiated wishful claims about costs and benefits - "the errors would be extremely rare" - would they really? And would they be evenly spread over in-groups and out-groups?

But at least the question "how is that acceptable?" is in fact a question of a moral nature. It's unacceptable, but it is unacceptable because it is immoral.

Re:Hacking Kia: Remotely Controlling Cars with Just a Licens... by Dylan16807 on Saturday September 28, 2024 @02:01AM (#41678232)
How is any error rate, no matter how small, acceptable when it comes to locking people up for the rest of their lives?

While I don't like the death penalty I don't think it's that different from a very long sentence. I don't think it makes sense to say that any punishment needs an absolutely perfect error rate.

Re:Hacking Kia: Remotely Controlling Cars with Just a Licens... by wesselbindt on Friday September 27, 2024 @01:42AM (#41666628)
Given how flagrantly governments have been using pedophiles as an excuse for curtailing our right to privacy, I don't trust them to execute civilians for this reason (or any). False convictions (intentionally so, in worse-governed countries) are a thing, and I do not cheer for the prospect of giving the government yet another reason to murder its citizens.

Advocacy in favor of the death penalty is never about "death penalty for murderers/rapists" but "death penalty for people convicted of being murderers/rapists". Practice has shown there's a big difference

Re:Hacking Kia: Remotely Controlling Cars with Just a Licens... by IanCal on Friday September 27, 2024 @03:52AM (#41667483)
At its core, a death penalty is permission for the government to kill its own citizens.

That's a pretty big step, and to me it requires a lot of benefits to justify.

Re:Hacking Kia: Remotely Controlling Cars with Just a Licens... by coding123 on Sunday September 29, 2024 @06:25PM (#41691337)
Many people that escape prison kill people immediately after doing so. Either in the process of running from the law or simply taking over a house for a few days of cover.

It seems to me like taking care of business before that happens is a more beneficial thing.