Re:Google App Engine 1.7.0 available to download
by jbarham on Wednesday June 27, 2012 @09:01AM
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And it costs $99/month. Hmm. (I'm not considering SNI since IMHO it's a non-starter not being supported by XP.)
Lack of custom SSL was the main issue preventing me from considering App Engine for my web service, so I'll definitely have to revisit it to see how it could compare to AWS in production.
Re:Google App Engine 1.7.0 available to download
by saurik on Wednesday June 27, 2012 @01:26PM
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I don't see how that could work: they wouldn't even be able to make the SSL connection yet without getting the certificate error, and if the user is willing to accept those then you may as well just keep them on the broken hostname.
>>>Here's a bit of detail on the core problem. SSL is tied to a particular domain and, usually, an IP address. Managing SSL certificates in an elastic cloud environment is non-trivial. As a result, many cloud providers don't support SSL at all or, like AppEngine, create a wildcard SSL cert for their domain and force everyone who wants SSL to send requests to that. Unfortunately, if you try and make a request to AppEngine from your own domain then the SSL certificate won't validate. We initially thought we could solve this as a proxy just by ignoring SSL errors from the origin, but AppEngine also routes based on the host header. If the host header isn't a subdomain off appspot.org then traffic gets rerouted to the Google home page.
Re:Google App Engine 1.7.0 available to download
by rmangi on Wednesday June 27, 2012 @10:43AM
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Awesome that I just asked our premier support engineer if the $99 was waived for paying premier customers and she had no idea they had released SSL to everybody.
Re:Google App Engine 1.7.0 available to download
by rmangi on Wednesday June 27, 2012 @10:42AM
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appengine is a platform, how would open sourcing it help you? You have a spare datacenter? FWIW there is an opensource clone out there in the wild but you need a cloud infrastructure to run it and it's not up to date with the latest SDK.
Re:Google App Engine 1.7.0 available to download
by rplnt on Wednesday June 27, 2012 @10:50AM
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Releasing it would allow others to run "appengines" so you could move from one provider to another as you can with "traditional" hosting. Appengine pretty much locks you in. I'm interested to see where OpenShift will lead though. https://openshift.redhat.com/
Lack of custom SSL was the main issue preventing me from considering App Engine for my web service, so I'll definitely have to revisit it to see how it could compare to AWS in production.
>>>Here's a bit of detail on the core problem. SSL is tied to a particular domain and, usually, an IP address. Managing SSL certificates in an elastic cloud environment is non-trivial. As a result, many cloud providers don't support SSL at all or, like AppEngine, create a wildcard SSL cert for their domain and force everyone who wants SSL to send requests to that. Unfortunately, if you try and make a request to AppEngine from your own domain then the SSL certificate won't validate. We initially thought we could solve this as a proxy just by ignoring SSL errors from the origin, but AppEngine also routes based on the host header. If the host header isn't a subdomain off appspot.org then traffic gets rerouted to the Google home page.
I wish they include support for IPython as well. That would make things far more easier and comfortable. I wish