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Re:Rents Fall and Listings Increase After Milei Ends Rent Co... by ptsneves on Thursday September 26, 2024 @11:43AM (#41659731)
It is always an implementation issue and never a design issue. If a design leads to easy foot-guns then it is a bad design.
Re:Rents Fall and Listings Increase After Milei Ends Rent Co... by tivert on Thursday September 26, 2024 @11:39AM (#41659682)
> Real Communism hasn’t been tried. Once we do it, it’s going to work.

Come on. You've said nothing of value and had no insight. No one's talking about full-on central planning. You've just uttered a strawman slogan for the unrestrained free market.

But the unrestrained free market would objectively suck, which anyone with two brain cells who is not high on ideology can predict. It's most prefect expression, anarcho-capitalism, is the ununoctium of economic systems (as it would immediately decay into something very different).

Re:Rents Fall and Listings Increase After Milei Ends Rent Co... by ptsneves on Thursday September 26, 2024 @12:09PM (#41660112)
> You've said nothing of value and had no insight. No one's talking about full-on central planning. You've just uttered a strawman slogan for the unrestrained free market.

The case in discussion is not a full-on central planning, just core socialist policies that often fail. It is legitimate to regard the excuses as just excuses.

> But the unrestrained free market would objectively suck, which anyone with two brain cells who is not high on ideology can predict.

This is not the case of the article, nor is suggested by the parent. The housing code or other technical regulations regarding housing have not been removed, thus jumping to ideologies and disparaging them is besides the point[1] and a fallacy. What was lifted was a very common policy solution for the housing problem and it happened that things improved in its absence. Wherever people have been victims of these policies it is natural people respond to supporters with these simple slogans.

Those are 2 straw men there :D.

[1] I recently went through the anarchist political movements of the 19th century and some believed the State is immoral because it is a manifestation of violent power. We live in times where people try to excuse the State's violence primacy with laws which are moral, and that is actually the worst. It reliefs them of the burden that is to take something from the other fellow men. Whenever somebody suggests regulating something about private property they should imagine a mobster coming for extortion money. Maybe the mobster is a really really good guy and we kind of can choose the mobster, but he is still a mobster. I find this moral weight important to keep us and the powers that be from being a bad mobster.

Re:Rents Fall and Listings Increase After Milei Ends Rent Co... by jjk166 on Thursday September 26, 2024 @12:03PM (#41660033)
The comment was drawing a parallel - the same way people say "real communism hasn't been tried yet" the root comment is saying "real rent control hasn't been tried yet" and the complaints about the first statement apply to the second.

It is not an argument for an unrestrained free market.

Re:Rents Fall and Listings Increase After Milei Ends Rent Co... by onemoresoop on Thursday September 26, 2024 @11:29AM (#41659526)
Your use of communism here is a strawman to not talk about socialism. Socialist programs is what kept the world from going back to feudalism.
Re:Rents Fall and Listings Increase After Milei Ends Rent Co... by iphoneisbetter on Thursday September 26, 2024 @11:32AM (#41659568)
Got a source for that one?