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Re:Wordpress.org bans WP Engine, blocks it from accessing it... by ahmedfromtunis on Thursday September 26, 2024 @05:32AM (#41656340)
I don't think the issue is about WordPress, the open source software, but rather about using up ressources on the wordpress.org servers.
Re:Wordpress.org bans WP Engine, blocks it from accessing it... by DonnieBurger on Thursday September 26, 2024 @05:46AM (#41656413)
I think the issue is using a non-profit (WordPress) to suppress a for-profit's (Automattic's) competition.
Re:Wordpress.org bans WP Engine, blocks it from accessing it... by Arnt on Thursday September 26, 2024 @06:03AM (#41656530)
I heard that there was an old handshake agreement that WPEngine should contribute so-and-so many developer hours to Wordpress per employee, but doesn't now and hasn't for a while. At some point the CEO of Automattic, which does contribute developer hours, blew up.
Re:Wordpress.org bans WP Engine, blocks it from accessing it... by sureIy on Thursday September 26, 2024 @06:36AM (#41656760)
I keep not getting it. WordPress.org is offered as a free download and it accesses the website FOR FREE. Complaining that people don’t pay for free stuff is not a healthy mental state.

WP Engine is no different from the million hostings that auto-install WordPress and “abuse” their resources.

Re:Wordpress.org bans WP Engine, blocks it from accessing it... by 1116574 on Thursday September 26, 2024 @05:46AM (#41656411)
Yep, Matt (wordpress guy) has a dramatic writing style, but in essence WPE is using plugins, their security research, user system, theming store etc, without contributing back that much.

Worth adding that WPE is owned by private equity, and they allegedly tried to remove the newsfeed from wp-admin to hide his (dramatic) posts about them

Re:Wordpress.org bans WP Engine, blocks it from accessing it... by dncornholio on Thursday September 26, 2024 @05:57AM (#41656480)
My company is also a heavy user of WordPress and never have contributed. We also hide those widgets. Do we need to be blocked as well then?
Re:Wordpress.org bans WP Engine, blocks it from accessing it... by manuelmoreale on Thursday September 26, 2024 @06:15AM (#41656605)
Does your company offer a competitor to what Automattic is offering, taking revenues from them, and make 500+ millions in revenues a year? If the answer to those is yes then I’d probably keep quiet before Matt notices you :)
Re:Wordpress.org bans WP Engine, blocks it from accessing it... by FireBeyond on Thursday September 26, 2024 @07:09PM (#41664538)
That is a really problematic question to ask. Because remember, Automattic is not the Foundation or the open source project...

so then the question becomes "Why is the Foundation/project hamstringing a competitor to their director's for profit company who is, in theory, and legally should be, independent?"

Re:Wordpress.org bans WP Engine, blocks it from accessing it... by batuhanicoz on Thursday September 26, 2024 @06:15AM (#41656603)
Hiding the widgets isn't the main issue. If you infringe the WordPress trademark in commercial use, and ignore any attempt to make it right, and pursue legal action, W.ORG does not have to provide those free services to you.

I'm guessing you are not size of WP Engine and Silver Lake, honest question, if you were, would you want to contribute back to WordPress?

Re:Wordpress.org bans WP Engine, blocks it from accessing it... by Arnt on Thursday September 26, 2024 @06:12AM (#41656586)
Open source is a gift. There's etiquette involved.

Suppose one of your developers writes on twitter that you don't permit contribution, and you fire that developer on the next day. What reaction do you expect from the people who pay for most of the development?

Re:Wordpress.org bans WP Engine, blocks it from accessing it... by cldellow on Thursday September 26, 2024 @09:40AM (#41658286)
I keep seeing people refer to this tweet. Can you share a link to it, please?
Re:Wordpress.org bans WP Engine, blocks it from accessing it... by Arnt on Thursday September 26, 2024 @05:44PM (#41663790)
I'm afraid not. I look at twitter only in incognito mode and don't have any history, and can't find anything now.
Re:Wordpress.org bans WP Engine, blocks it from accessing it... by rglullis on Thursday September 26, 2024 @06:18AM (#41656633)
Is your company building a business with half a billion of dollars in revenue out the uncountable amount of man-hours put into Wordpress development?
Re:Wordpress.org bans WP Engine, blocks it from accessing it... by dncornholio on Thursday September 26, 2024 @06:28AM (#41656706)
We probably made a lot more then that in the past 20 years.
Re:Wordpress.org bans WP Engine, blocks it from accessing it... by rglullis on Thursday September 26, 2024 @08:20AM (#41657509)
We are talking about yearly revenues here, and something tells me that your company is not in the business of selling services that depend on WordPress code being developed
Re:Wordpress.org bans WP Engine, blocks it from accessing it... by austhrow743 on Thursday September 26, 2024 @06:15AM (#41656606)
Seems like you should act as if you will be.
Re:Wordpress.org bans WP Engine, blocks it from accessing it... by tbyehl on Thursday September 26, 2024 @09:43PM (#41665465)
> Worth adding that WPE is owned by private equity

How do you think Matt got the money to build his empire?