Re:London saw a surprising benefit to ultra-low emissions zo...
by richardw on Monday September 23, 2024 @02:14AM
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I wonder if the flatness of the country plays a part? I live on a hill and am surrounded by hills. A 3km ride in any direction and back is hard work. Lots of e-bikes here, and lots of mountain biking. But when I suggested getting a bike to my SO for her to get to the closest bus stop faster, the hills were the reason why she’d rather walk.
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Re:London saw a surprising benefit to ultra-low emissions zo...
by tfourb on Monday September 23, 2024 @03:15AM
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This is almost completely solved by e-bikes. You can convert practically any bike to an e-bike and while it does cost money, it is cheaper than the costs associated with driving a car or the bus by orders of magnitude over the life time of the bike.
Walking is fine as well, though. No real reason to play off walking and cycling against each other.
Re:London saw a surprising benefit to ultra-low emissions zo...
by richardw on Monday September 23, 2024 @04:52AM
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> Walking is fine as well, though. No real reason to play off walking and cycling against each other.
Reason 1: a 6 year old who would like more time with an overworked mother who can’t move from her job (yet) due to visa reasons.
Re:London saw a surprising benefit to ultra-low emissions zo...
by dncornholio on Monday September 23, 2024 @08:12AM
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E-bikes are at least 5 times more expensive. Not everyone can afford one.
Re:London saw a surprising benefit to ultra-low emissions zo...
by Filligree on Monday September 23, 2024 @08:20AM
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Far cheaper than cars though. But compared to walking, yeah.
Re:London saw a surprising benefit to ultra-low emissions zo...
by seanmcdirmid on Monday September 23, 2024 @02:43AM
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I rode a bike in Lausanne, which was a primarily 3D city. T was a bit of a struggle to get up the hill in the morning though, you could coast back down at night. Before that I lived in Seattle which wasn’t as extreme, but if you lived on say Queen Anne hill instead of Ballard, I could see where that wouldn’t work out. Maybe that’s why Minneapolis has better cycling infrastructure than Seattle.
Re:London saw a surprising benefit to ultra-low emissions zo...
by loa_in_ on Monday September 23, 2024 @05:29AM
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The best part of biking uphill is that you can just walk alongside your bike if you want to take a break and you lose nothing
Re:London saw a surprising benefit to ultra-low emissions zo...
by Reason077 on Monday September 23, 2024 @06:26AM
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e-bikes are getting pretty popular. Solves the hill problem.
Re:London saw a surprising benefit to ultra-low emissions zo...
by robertlagrant on Monday September 23, 2024 @06:30AM
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Yes, super-recent developments may obviate hills, but 40 years of city design have already happened. The Netherlands case was easy mode, and they leaned into it while extending their cities. That's not useful for almost any other country.
Also e-bikes are expensive and heavy, of course, so they're a good gentrification measure, if you're into that sort of thing, but they aren't for everyone.
Re:London saw a surprising benefit to ultra-low emissions zo...
by GateCrasher on Monday September 23, 2024 @08:22AM
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Alot cheaper and less heavy then a car.
Re:London saw a surprising benefit to ultra-low emissions zo...
by robertlagrant on Monday September 23, 2024 @09:51AM
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And cheaper and less heavy than a space shuttle. But neither will seem that relevant when it comes to parking and securing your electric bike when you live 5 floors up.
Re:London saw a surprising benefit to ultra-low emissions zo...
by Reason077 on Monday September 23, 2024 @02:59PM
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Lack of parking can be a barrier to adoption with any type of bike. Nobody wants to lug any bike up stairs.
But it's a solvable problem. Newer apartment buildings in London must provide secure cycle parking for residents and visitors.
For older buildings that lack such provisions, London councils often provide secure (covered, lockable) on-street cycle storage facilities. 1 or 2 car parking spaces can be converted into parking for many bikes! [1]
Re:London saw a surprising benefit to ultra-low emissions zo...
by WalterBright on Monday September 23, 2024 @06:05AM
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A local nurse told me they had a lot of victims of "Lime Disease" in the hospitals, i.e. people who rode those Lime bicycles without a helmet.