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Re:Teenager jailed for 18 months still in prison 18 years later by beerandt on Monday September 23, 2024 @12:53AM (#41622480)
That's a voluntary program that most large cities have declined to participate in since 2020.

And the 'standardized' form has been messed with so much that increase or decrease for any particular line item is meaningless.

Personally, I know that shootings and other crimes I've reported on my property have been white-washed and don't show up in our city's 'open data' system.

Being 'open' with statistics just means they're much more careful about manipulating them first, or about what data is allowed in.

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Re:Teenager jailed for 18 months still in prison 18 years later by beerandt on Monday September 23, 2024 @07:08PM (#41631533)
Anyone doubting this needs to go lookup how many murders New Orleans reported to the fbi for the year 2023, published today: 0.

Hint: they had more than 0 murders in 2023.

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Re:Teenager jailed for 18 months still in prison 18 years later by philipkglass on Monday September 23, 2024 @07:20PM (#41631608)
I looked this up because it sounded implausible. I used the FBI's crime data explorer tool here: https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crim...

I looked at homicide, location Louisiana, agency New Orleans Police Department for the last two years. There were multiple homicides recorded every month in 2023.

EDIT: I found that the New Orleans Police Department also publishes a daily Major Offense Log here:

https://nopdnews.com/transparency/major-offense-log/

It has a homicide reported as recently as 2024-09-21:

https://nopdnews.com/getattachment/2ed5b866-db79-4edb-aeda-7...

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Re:Teenager jailed for 18 months still in prison 18 years later by beerandt on Monday September 23, 2024 @08:29PM (#41631954)
Yea sorry everything was coming up zero because they didn't submit supplemental data, so all filters based on that data (including age and other demographics) come back as zero.

Which is not the way 'nodata' should be returned.

But the point stands- eg Jackson ms didn't submit this year. So your get a 'state total' that doesn't include the majority of the data for the state.

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