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Re:What Is a Particle? by fasa99 on Sunday September 22, 2024 @02:21PM (#41618874)
The idea that it's an abstraction is 100% accurate. That physics is a discrete set of fields with field rules and interaction rules, and what we observe is a scaffold on top of that. It's like okay, let's say the math is right and we have a set of fields, what are they and where are they from, how do we manipulate them. Then the physicists, often driven by ego, is want for an explanation and points to vibrating strings and such, and finally they knock on the door of the empiric physicist and say "can you do an experiment to show that I'm right" "sure, build a machine the size of the universe and I could test that" and that's the state of physics the last gorillion years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYJ1dbyDcrI

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Re:What Is a Particle? by travisjungroth on Sunday September 22, 2024 @08:17PM (#41621215)
So in the viewpoint I’m describing you can definitely call it an abstraction. And abstraction has a vibe of intentionality to it, at least for me. That brings up something I didn’t mention, which is you can make a math game on purpose, to match with something in the real world. You can also make them up for fun (people don’t usually call it “for fun”, but that’s actually a fair label for theoretical mathematics IMO) and then discover the application later.

This is neat! I think it happens less in the physical world, just making up a tool and then finding its application later. It does happen in chemistry.

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