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Re:Porsche's Idea for a Six-Stroke Internal Combustion Engin... by tonyedgecombe on Saturday September 21, 2024 @06:19AM (#41608954)
>I'm an enviromentalist and I'd still buy an ICE Porsche.

Environmentalists walk or ride bikes.

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Re:Porsche's Idea for a Six-Stroke Internal Combustion Engin... by tirant on Saturday September 21, 2024 @07:40AM (#41609335)
According to whom?

I am also an environmentalist and burn some fuel from time to time, I’m not a zealot.

For me to operate and support the environment the best I can I also need to be mentally fit and have life enjoinment. And riding my old classic carbureted Triumph helps me with that.

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Re:Porsche's Idea for a Six-Stroke Internal Combustion Engin... by tonyedgecombe on Saturday September 21, 2024 @09:30AM (#41609844)
According to my dictionary an environmentalist is "a person who is interested in or studies the environment and who tries to protect it from being damaged by human activities".

I can't see how buying a Porsche (or any car really) is compatible with that.

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Re:Porsche's Idea for a Six-Stroke Internal Combustion Engin... by LightBug1 on Monday September 23, 2024 @03:50AM (#41623456)
That's a bit like saying, I'm pro athlete (or even just very health conscious), but going out for a night out with my friends to a fast food joint is not compatible with that.
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Re:Porsche's Idea for a Six-Stroke Internal Combustion Engin... by chromatin on Saturday September 21, 2024 @07:44AM (#41609351)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
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Re:Porsche's Idea for a Six-Stroke Internal Combustion Engin... by tonyedgecombe on Saturday September 21, 2024 @09:23AM (#41609804)
Where do you draw the line then? If I spend the week jetting across the Atlantic but then take a reusable bag to the supermarket am I an environmentalist?
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Re:Porsche's Idea for a Six-Stroke Internal Combustion Engin... by LightBug1 on Saturday September 21, 2024 @09:41AM (#41609906)
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Appeal-...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum

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Re:Porsche's Idea for a Six-Stroke Internal Combustion Engin... by tonyedgecombe on Monday September 23, 2024 @03:36AM (#41623374)
Where do you draw the line then?

I'll note I've seen people struggling across the supermarket carpark to avoid buying a plastic bag only to get in a giant SUV. It's a form of moral licensing[1], there is a huge amount of dissonance around environmental issues.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-licensing

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Re:Porsche's Idea for a Six-Stroke Internal Combustion Engin... by LightBug1 on Monday September 23, 2024 @03:54AM (#41623484)
I'll agree on that example. But that's different to what's been discussed in this thread.

A sports car, used fairly sparingly for fun, and not a daily driver - is different to the horrible trend of daily driving done via ugly, honkingly big SUV's.

There's a line somewhere out there that enables humanity to have fun and not destroy the planet.

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Re:Porsche's Idea for a Six-Stroke Internal Combustion Engin... by _factor on Saturday September 21, 2024 @06:49AM (#41609108)
“I’m a vegetarian, but I’d still scarf down a steak.”
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