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Re:Apple Mobile Processors Are Now Made in America. By TSMC by brcmthrowaway on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @10:27PM (#41575104)
Why can't America build a TSMC from scratch?
Re:Apple Mobile Processors Are Now Made in America. By TSMC by shiroiushi on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @10:29PM (#41575120)
They did! It's called "Intel".
Re:Apple Mobile Processors Are Now Made in America. By TSMC by arcticbull on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @10:33PM (#41575147)
And GlobalFoundries (ex-AMD, ex-IBM). There's also less cutting edge process stuff at ONSemi, TI, Micron, Analog Devices, Diodes Inc and I'm sure I'm missing a few.

Even Apple has their own fab.

Re:Apple Mobile Processors Are Now Made in America. By TSMC by electronbeam on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @10:43PM (#41575212)
I hadn’t heard about Apple, is the node size public?
Re:Apple Mobile Processors Are Now Made in America. By TSMC by arcticbull on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @10:44PM (#41575221)
They picked up the old Maxim fab in San Jose almost 10 years ago. Not sure what's happening in there now and I assume the people who do aren't likely to spill the beans :) unless its as shuttered I guess.

[1] https://appleinsider.com/articles/15/12/14/apple-buys-former...

Re:Apple Mobile Processors Are Now Made in America. By TSMC by Reason077 on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @11:56PM (#41575633)
The San Jose facility is active. There was some controversy surrounding it recently as some members of the public have been complaining that they’ve been illegally releasing solvents into the environment, which resulted in some EPA investigation/enforcement action [1].

According to some reports they may be developing micro-LED display tech there, not necessarily chips.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40772224

Re:Apple Mobile Processors Are Now Made in America. By TSMC by KSS42 on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @11:28PM (#41575479)
GF is 14/12 nm. Not really cutting edge anymore
Re:Apple Mobile Processors Are Now Made in America. By TSMC by kylehotchkiss on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @11:23PM (#41575456)
Build a workforce with the world's leading company. Pull those people into senior positions at new companies nearby. An industry is born and competition can grow. All with export limits so the jobs hopefully can't be outsourced.
Re:Apple Mobile Processors Are Now Made in America. By TSMC by electronbeam on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @10:29PM (#41575122)
Its called Intel Foundry
Re:Apple Mobile Processors Are Now Made in America. By TSMC by coliveira on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @10:36PM (#41575167)
This was build by TSMC, that's why it was completed in a few years. They have the know-how.
Re:Apple Mobile Processors Are Now Made in America. By TSMC by klyrs on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @10:46PM (#41575239)
Wrong question. They'd still be buying Zeiss
Re:Apple Mobile Processors Are Now Made in America. By TSMC by trollian on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @10:31PM (#41575136)
Have you even met Americans? We're terrible at this kind of thing.
Re:Apple Mobile Processors Are Now Made in America. By TSMC by Cthulhu_ on Wednesday September 18, 2024 @03:51AM (#41576968)
Do you know who invented and developed transistors, microchips and their manufacturing processes?
Re:Apple Mobile Processors Are Now Made in America. By TSMC by handfuloflight on Wednesday September 18, 2024 @09:41AM (#41579617)
Are the inventors of the wheel still in the driver's seat?
Re:Apple Mobile Processors Are Now Made in America. By TSMC by mrguyorama on Wednesday September 18, 2024 @10:14AM (#41579998)
The past is another country.

Find me a modern US exec willing to actually invest in a risky hardware prospect, rather than throwing a billion dollars into real estate or "content" that can be filled with ads.

Re:Apple Mobile Processors Are Now Made in America. By TSMC by acdha on Wednesday September 18, 2024 @05:11PM (#41585557)
Tim Cook seems to have done okay with what a bunch of tech pundits said was a risky move compared to sticking with Intel.
Re:Apple Mobile Processors Are Now Made in America. By TSMC by talldayo on Wednesday September 18, 2024 @06:34PM (#41586342)
Considering how Intel doesn't tend to hold grudge-matches with their customers, I seriously doubt there was any risk in the first place. If TSMC yields were too low to mass-produce Apple Silicon, they could easily ship out another copy-paste Macbook iteration with Magic Keyboard and nobody would care what chip it had inside.

With the benefit of hindsight, it feels more like Intel and Apple were in a race to see who would outsource the Mac chip first. Since Apple already had the supply chain set up for the iPhone, cutting Intel out of the equation was mostly just a matter of designing an SOC. They took the opportunity, and now we're seeing Intel glumly admit that they too can be energy-efficient if they swallow their pride and pay TSMC.