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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by IG_Semmelweiss on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @07:43PM (#41574087)
I actually think that an unintended consequence is that Mossad has permanently flagged the vast majority of Hizbullah's followers, an entire generation, on Lebanese soil.

The wound patterns will emerge for the vast majority of victims: arms, hands, eyes and hips ? Time will tell.

The Lebanese army, and the IDF, now suddenly can tell between civilian vs combatant.

Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by bbqfog on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @07:51PM (#41574120)
If I was wounded (or even witnessed this in real life), I would go from civilian to combatant instantly. Israel just attacked a bunch of civilian population centers. This will be seen as a huge strategic mistake, both in terms of new combatants created on the ground and continued loss of good will for Israel abroad.
Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by orena on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @08:45PM (#41574476)
The only reason IL can do it, is because the general population in Lebanon hates hezbollah, it is basically a proxy control power from IRAN.

Look at this to understand how big part of Lebanon sees Hezbollah https://www.instagram.com/brigitte_gabriel/reel/CyT_RanK1gi/

Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by _DeadFred_ on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @08:50PM (#41574515)
Instead of giving Hezballah martyrs, Israel just turned hundreds or maybe thousands of local 'strong men' into damaged broken people who will get not a martyrs celebration but looks of pity. I gotta think it's a huge moral hit not recruiting tool among young men when your local enforcer becomes a eunuch.
Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by IG_Semmelweiss on Wednesday September 18, 2024 @07:15AM (#41578257)
I think you are missing context. 10 years of civil war and many more decades of animositiy and of strife, are not reversed overnight , even due to an event like this. For example, Israël has lobbed missiles before, and that had its collateral damage, but also didnt change a thing or win new allies to Hizbullah.

Even some druze (historically neutral sectl were kidnapped and killed in the Oct 7th events.

Now, for the 1st time in 100 years, every single rival of hizbullah is able to instantly recognize enemies, in the open.

Obe thing im certain of, Israel has managed to reset the board in its conflict with Hezbollah.

Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by bbqfog on Wednesday September 18, 2024 @09:10AM (#41579284)
Israel has no support outside of hardcore Zionists. I don't know if you've checked out the global reaction to this terrorist act that Israel just pulled, but they just multiplied the intensity of their enemies (i.e. the rest of humanity) 10X.
Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by IG_Semmelweiss on Monday September 23, 2024 @10:37AM (#41626638)
Even if all that is true, for all intents and purposes, it's a moot point.

The only people that share borders with Israel matter. That is Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt. 2 of those 4 have firm peace agreements in place, and have converging interests to control their extremist interests. Syria has its own issues and a defacto govt ban on extremists. Lebanon just had its entire terror contingent permanently labeled.

If you notice my statement, 3 of the 4 of israel's borders were more or less under acceptable control. Now, Israel has likely managed to reset the board for the 4th and final border.

Again, time will tell if the long term consequences you envision matter in any way. I contend they dont, in comparison to the gains they just made.

Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by bbqfog on Monday September 23, 2024 @12:01PM (#41627502)
What's the Lebanon "terror contingent"? Hezbollah (not terrorists, but resistance) is fighting Israel as we speak, so surely you don't mean them?
Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by Thuggery on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @08:58PM (#41574569)
I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding but it sounds like you are implying membership of Hezbollah is deep dark shameful secret in Lebanon. The designation of Hezbollah as a "terrorist organization" is great for outside political propaganda, but the actual reality is they are a major and open faction in political life in Lebanon as both paramilitary group and political party - as is my understanding. Basically Sinn Fein/IRA.
Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by IG_Semmelweiss on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @09:55PM (#41574934)
Lebanon is very generous. They have their zones, mostly in the South, Bekaa, and a specific part of Beyrouth. It is also true they have a political wing. But they also have covert enforcers outside those zones and that is what everyone else is most fearful of. They have been involved in sectarian killings tit-for-tats, for many years. Most famously, the murder of PM rafik hariri.

So, otside of those Hizbullah zones, its actually not common to see the Hizbullah yellow flags openly displayed. Or a car bumper sticker. It is for good reason. There was a civil war before, and memories run deep.

Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by philistine on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @11:12PM (#41575393)
They're much bigger than the IRA.
Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by Sawamara on Wednesday September 18, 2024 @04:22AM (#41577199)
Oh sure, Israel is famous for caring about the difference between civilian and combatants.