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Re:Dozens of Hezbollah members said to be seriously injured ... by jajko on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @12:40PM (#41569602)
Given history, given adversary, given all facts known thats practically sure. Usually Mosad doesn't say anything so we won't get much more anytime soon.

There will be few movies and documentaries about this for sure once things calm down a bit. I presume they used pagers instead of phones to not be so easily trackable via google/apple software and hardware?

Re:Dozens of Hezbollah members said to be seriously injured ... by minkles on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @12:44PM (#41569658)
A pager is passive receiver only. It never transmits. So you can't track it. That allows an operative to get to a secure line or obtain a burner device.

Whoever did this just killed that as an information channel as both the devices and the network are now compromised.

Re:Dozens of Hezbollah members said to be seriously injured ... by spidersenses on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @01:09PM (#41569977)
>Whoever did this just killed that as an information channel as both the devices and the network are now compromised.

This is also true for Hezbollah. They must now distrust their own network, equipment and procurement channels. The reshuffling resulting from the casualties will make the organization less effective, at least temporarily, thus delaying any attack plans and allowing moles to rise through the ranks.

Re:Dozens of Hezbollah members said to be seriously injured ... by the-rc on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @01:03PM (#41569902)
That's not been true for well over twenty years.

http://suntelecom.com/images/st900_large.jpg

Re:Dozens of Hezbollah members said to be seriously injured ... by vel0city on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @02:11PM (#41570815)
You might as well be arguing all cell phones are iPhones, because here's a model which is an iPhone. Sure, some are two-way pagers and do transmit, but most aren't.

Loads of pagers are passive, receive-only devices. There's a reason why there's a common distinction between "pager" and "two-way pager".

Re:Dozens of Hezbollah members said to be seriously injured ... by minkles on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @01:07PM (#41569955)
Looks like they were using Gold AL-A25 / Apollo 929 pagers which are 100% passive.
Re:Dozens of Hezbollah members said to be seriously injured ... by Dig1t on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @01:28PM (#41570256)
Funny enough the Apollo pagers website appears to be down.
Re:Dozens of Hezbollah members said to be seriously injured ... by noduerme on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @01:53PM (#41570576)
What if the company itself was a front? That sounds like Mossad's style of planning, much more so than intercepting shipments or something.
Re:Dozens of Hezbollah members said to be seriously injured ... by cdchn on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @01:56PM (#41570621)
>Whoever did this just killed that as an information channel as both the devices and the network are now compromised.

I'm not sure if thats true, they just need to start cracking open their shipments of pagers and looking for explosives.

Re:Dozens of Hezbollah members said to be seriously injured ... by bonestamp2 on Wednesday September 18, 2024 @01:07AM (#41576003)
Until we know the attack vector, I wouldn't say the network is compromised. Perhaps a specific message was used to detonate, that wouldn't require compromising the network. Perhaps there was a separate radio that wasn't using the pager network at all.