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Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by lm28469 on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @11:44AM (#41568899)
> it would be justified, no?

It's never justified to trigger explosives when you have no idea where said explosives are.

What if the dude if hugging is kid/wife/mom ?

What if he's picking up his kids from school, visiting the local food market, &c.

What if he's driving and end up crashing in a bunch of people walking on the sidewalk

Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by xdennis on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @12:19PM (#41569285)
That sounds nice, but by that logic no bomb would ever be fired. Under international law collateral damage must not be excessive, but it is permitted. If it was unacceptable, evil armies would do what they want and good armies would never fire a shot.
Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by papiomytoglou on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @04:12PM (#41572185)
"Evil armies" and "good armies". This is the level of discourse we're at.
Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by lm28469 on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @12:33PM (#41569517)
When you drop a bomb you at least know where it's going, here you have no idea.

Look at what's going on in Ukraine, if you can't tell a good from a bad shit you have to get your eyes checked. Hitting a column of tank isn't the same as targeting a civilian building

Wars are always bad and there will always be war crimes on all sides, it doesn't mean that everything is equal

Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by daedrdev on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @03:40PM (#41571799)
In WW2 20% of US bombs fell within 1000 feet of their target, which were often in densely populated areas. Its only modern technology that lets us know where its really going
Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by lm28469 on Wednesday September 18, 2024 @07:08AM (#41578215)
> In WW2 20% of US bombs fell within 1000 feet of their target, which were often in densely populated areas. Its only modern technology that lets us know where its really going

Is this supposed to be a gotcha ?

WW2 is the reason we updated the Geneva conventions to protect civilians lol

Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by t0lo on Friday September 20, 2024 @02:08AM (#41599256)
Do you really want to defend this?
Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by dkarras on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @07:57PM (#41574165)
easy, don't be near civilians / family when you are on duty.

Hamas / Hezbullah use civilians as human shields for their cause and cry wolf when they are harmed.

If you are a member of a terrorist organisation, someone is probably looking for you or your kind. They want to kill you on sight. Why would you then subject innocents to danger by being close with them while you are also a target?

Do terrorists deserve a "family break" where they are untouchable?

Siding with the losing side at any cost is a terrible heuristic.

If there are civilian / innocent casualties, that is sad, but if the target blends into the public life willingly as a defense mechanism that means it is a risk they are actively willing to take. Send your anger towards them for doing so.

Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by dekelpilli on Wednesday September 18, 2024 @12:30AM (#41575803)
> What if the dude if hugging is kid/wife/mom ?

Then they also die/get injured. Being in close contact with a terrorist is a dangerous pass-time, and armies targeting foreign threats need to accept some level of collateral damage. In this case, we have thousands of injured terrorists, with hundreds dead, and an additional fraction of those numbers being non-military targets (civilians). It's certainly unfortunate and unpleasant, but this is an excellent ratio.

Re:Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon by TheBen1 on Wednesday September 18, 2024 @04:24AM (#41577220)
Somebody shared videos: https://x.com/warfareanalysis/status/1836041245996584983/vid... Looks like bystanders are fine.