Amazon tells employees to return to office five days a week

Re:Amazon tells employees to return to office five days a week by jackyinger on Monday September 16, 2024 @02:20PM (#41558917)

Actually I heard from a friend that worked there that eventually Amazon will run out of people to hire in the US who haven’t previously worked at Amazon, tho this includes warehouse workers.

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Re:Amazon tells employees to return to office five days a week by toomuchtodo on Monday September 16, 2024 @02:32PM (#41559049)

Look at their H1B visa data and hiring in India (at least with regards to corp jobs, not US warehouse workers). They absolutely could find these folks in the US who don't need sponsorship.

https://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=amazon

> Amazon H1B Salary 2024

> 5848 records found; Median Salary is $144800. 7 percents of the salary are above $200K, 38 percents of the salary are between $150K and $200K, 43 percents of the salary are between $100K and $150K, 11 percents of the salary are less than $100k

Is this H1B visa fraud? Good question for USCIS and Congress. How Amazon feels about worker rights and regulation, as well as regulation as a whole, is a bit of a known quantity at this point.

https://www.uscis.gov/scams-fraud-and-misconduct/report-frau...

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Re:Amazon tells employees to return to office five days a week by apwell23 on Monday September 16, 2024 @04:27PM (#41560443)

If they hire from india on h1b they are almost guaranteed that person wouldn't be able to leave for amazon for a very long time if they apply for a perm process.

They are getting that retention premium that won't be possible if they hire locally.

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Re:Amazon tells employees to return to office five days a week by TeaBrain on Tuesday September 17, 2024 @01:36PM (#41570353)

Which is the reason for the h1b fraud, but this also begs the question of why amazon has been able to get away with this strategy for so long.

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Re:Amazon tells employees to return to office five days a week by WalterSear on Monday September 16, 2024 @03:35PM (#41559736)

Apparently Amazon agrees with your friend, at least as far as warehouse workers go.

> Amazon is facing a looming crisis: It could run out of people to hire in its US warehouses by 2024, according to leaked Amazon internal research from mid-2021...

> In the past, that churn wasn’t a problem for Amazon — it was even desirable at some points. Amazon founder and former CEO Jeff Bezos saw his warehouse workforce as necessary but replaceable, and feared that workers who remained at the company too long would turn complacent or, worse, disgruntled...

https://www.vox.com/recode/23170900/leaked-amazon-memo-wareh...

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Re:Amazon tells employees to return to office five days a week by SoftTalker on Monday September 16, 2024 @03:43PM (#41559837)

They will automate their way out of the warehouse worker problem. The only reason they still employ human workers is that they are still cheaper than robots for some tasks.

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Re:Amazon tells employees to return to office five days a week by aurizon on Monday September 16, 2024 @03:48PM (#41559897)

Amazon steadily promotes packaging standards that create standard boxes/packs amenable to fast robo read/sort/grip/handle, so they are looking to this.

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Re:Amazon tells employees to return to office five days a week by blackeyeblitzar on Monday September 16, 2024 @05:31PM (#41561166)

There was a leaked memo showing that Amazon itself is aware of this risk to their business:

https://www.vox.com/recode/23170900/leaked-amazon-memo-wareh...

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