1913: When Hitler, Trotsky, Tito, Freud and Stalin all lived in the same place

Re:1913: When Hitler, Trotsky, Tito, Freud and Stalin all li... by limit499karma on Friday September 13, 2024 @10:51AM (#41531784)

Gnosticism is not a term that can be used to define a uniform metaphysical system. There are a variety of metaphysical schools that are bundled together in the modern usage. For example, in what German scholars of early 20th century came to call "Iranian Gnosticism" (in reference to Manichaeism [1]) it is in fact the Father of Light that "sacrifices his sons" as 'food for daemons' so that the battle between Light and Darkness is taken to 'their turf'.

> Capitalism

Interestingly enough, another Iranian gnostic school derivative of Zoroastrianism - that of Mazdak [2] - shared everything, including "women".

In general, one should be careful to be quite specific as to what metaphysical school of thought they are referencing when using the currently ambiguous term "Gnosticism". ~

Mani's metaphysical vision is rather wild. I was just reading up on it the other day - apparently he even resorted to diagrams to make things clear.

[1]: https://iranicaonline.org/articles/cosmogony-iii

[2]: https://iranicaonline.org/articles/cosmogony-iv

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Re:1913: When Hitler, Trotsky, Tito, Freud and Stalin all li... by narrator on Saturday September 14, 2024 @07:16PM (#41543823)

One of the criticisms of Gnostisicm, even going back to the ancient Greeks is it never makes positive assertions about what the new world will be like. It's only negative saying things like "all this is illusion," "all this is bad." It never puts up its own program for criticism. So if you say anything about Gnosticism, the Gnostic can just respond, our faith isn't that, it's better than that. However, they never tell you what it actually is so it can be objectively criticized.

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