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Re:Learning to Reason with LLMs by tivert on Thursday September 12, 2024 @03:55PM (#41524818)
> I don't think anyone is worried about SWE work going away, I think the concern is if SWE's will still be able to command cushy salaries and working conditions.

It's very important to human progress that all jobs have poor working conditions and shit pay. High salaries and good conditions are evidence of inefficiency. Precarity should be the norm, and I'm glad AI is going to give it to us.

Re:Learning to Reason with LLMs by bornfreddy on Thursday September 12, 2024 @04:05PM (#41524942)
Sarcasm or cynicism?
Re:Learning to Reason with LLMs by baq on Thursday September 12, 2024 @04:38PM (#41525278)
Capitalism.

Btw communism is capitalism without systemic awareness of inefficiencies.

Re:Learning to Reason with LLMs by ruthmarx on Thursday September 12, 2024 @05:31PM (#41525801)
Capitalism doesn't dictate poor working conditions at all. Lack of regulation certainly does though.
Re:Learning to Reason with LLMs by tivert on Thursday September 12, 2024 @07:24PM (#41526697)
> Capitalism doesn't dictate poor working conditions at all. Lack of regulation certainly does though.

It totally does. Regulation is basically opposed to capitalism working as designed.

Re:Learning to Reason with LLMs by baq on Friday September 13, 2024 @02:17AM (#41528468)
Capitalism needs regulation to avoid self destruction. Without circuit breakers it devolves into monopolistic totalitarianism.

C.f. East India company. Then imagine them with modern military and communications tech.

Re:Learning to Reason with LLMs by ruthmarx on Friday September 13, 2024 @02:34AM (#41528571)
> Capitalism needs regulation to avoid self destruction.

This is equally true for any alternative system to capitalism.

Re:Learning to Reason with LLMs by ruthmarx on Friday September 13, 2024 @02:34AM (#41528568)
That's not true at all. That's just some propaganda college kids and the like keep repeating. Most other western countries are capitalist, have much stronger regulation than the US and are all the better for it.
Re:Learning to Reason with LLMs by Workaccount2 on Thursday September 12, 2024 @04:54PM (#41525454)
Software engineering pay is an outlier for STEM fields. It would not be surprising at all if SWE work fell into the ~$80-120k camp even with 10+ years experience.

They won't go broke, but landing a $175k work from home job with platinum tier benefits will be near impossible. $110K with a hybrid schedule and mediocre benefits will be very common even for seniors.

Re:Learning to Reason with LLMs by nyarlathotep_ on Friday September 20, 2024 @12:48PM (#41603678)
That's actually totally reasonable, but what's the end result for housing markets in areas saturated by these kinds of gigs now.

Would there be reasonably priced houses in Seattle/SF? Can't see that happening