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Re:How economical is your local Taco Bell? by hedora on Wednesday September 11, 2024 @11:22AM (#41512222)
The app works better for the drive thru, and also for families with kids that like to push buttons on the giant ipad.

Speaking of which, we stopped going to fast food burger places because 75% of them can’t make things like “a hamburger with no cheese or any other toppings except ketchup”, or “a cheeseburger with no other toppings”.

I suspect an LLM that supports audio input would outperform most drive through window attendants.

Oddly, I’ve noticed there is no correlation between speaking english as a first language and being able to understand those orders.

Re:How economical is your local Taco Bell? by PaulHoule on Wednesday September 11, 2024 @12:18PM (#41512807)
I was reading Graham's On Lisp which works a nice example of Augmented Transition Networks which were popular in the 1970s for writing parsers that could parse controlled vocabularies. For that matter I remember similar kinds of grammar to control voice response applications for platforms like TellMe circa 2001. I bet it would do fine for food ordering.

(This is why a non-native speaker can do this job well, you don't need to know a lot of the language to parse orders like 芥兰牛肉)

Re:How economical is your local Taco Bell? by sjsdaiuasgdia on Wednesday September 11, 2024 @03:14PM (#41514462)
>I suspect an LLM that supports audio input would outperform most drive through window attendants.

I think this would lead to a lot of really frustrating errors in a food ordering context. In my experience LLM speech recognition is really prone to inserting or removing negation words, which can really shift the meaning. This is a problem in any speech recog use case but there's often sufficient context to understand when the error has occurred. In a list of what a customer does / doesn't want, there is no additional context to fill the gap.

"Cheeseburger with ketchup mustard onion no tomato" -> "Cheeseburger with ketchup mustard onion tomato" or the inversion

You can correct this to some degree with an order confirmation step but the error rate would mean a lot of customers need to make a correction, which adds time to the process and increases customer frustration.

At that point I'd rather the drive thru have a touchscreen and just let me input the order directly, versus having to argue with an LLM about which ingredients i want included or excluded.

Re:How economical is your local Taco Bell? by hluska on Wednesday September 11, 2024 @07:09PM (#41516089)
“A hamburger with no cheese or any other toppings except ketchup.”

Try:

“A hamburger with only ketchup.”

When you take hundreds of orders a day, circular communications won’t stick.

Re:How economical is your local Taco Bell? by hedora on Friday September 13, 2024 @11:12PM (#41537203)
Hamburger isn’t on the menu, so that leads to a cheeseburger with ketchup.

Once it led to a hamburger bun with just ketchup.