News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by ricardobeat on Monday September 09, 2024 @04:38PM (#41493464)
I think you're seriously underestimating the impact of actually-useful and reliable AI features at your fingertips. This is what everyone imagined computers would be, since I don't know... the 80s?
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by Mainsail on Monday September 09, 2024 @04:53PM (#41493675)
Your comment reminded me of the Apple Knowledge Navigator.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=umJsITGzXd0

Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by robterrell on Monday September 09, 2024 @04:58PM (#41493755)
Great opportunity for someone to make a side by side comparison video & go viral.
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by manquer on Monday September 09, 2024 @04:50PM (#41493639)
Nice to have sure, enough to consider spending upwards of $1000 on upgrade? don’t think so.
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by acdha on Monday September 09, 2024 @07:02PM (#41495211)
Sure, but this isn’t one of those AI startups like Humane where you’re expected to drop $800 on a brand new thing. Most people aren’t buying the top end models and they probably aren’t paying full price due to promos, trade-ins, etc.

That means Apple has a much simpler problem: they don’t need to convince you that AI as a concept is worth hundreds of dollars, they just need to convince you that the hundreds of dollars you were already going to spend on a smartphone should go to them instead of Samsung or Xiaomi.

Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by manquer on Monday September 09, 2024 @07:27PM (#41495422)
Are you sure ? People do not move in significant numbers from Android anymore, a lot of people just do not want to learn a new interface and workflows and happy with their ecosystem.

Anecdotally I tried to get my dad to a iPhone 14 and shift from Android, he basically kept using his Android and never switched,so my mom is using that device now(along with an Android) not too happily just cause no else one is using it and will switch back to Android fully next upgrade. There are plenty of people who simply prefer the Android interface or by now so used to it that don't want to change and vice-versa. I myself use and need both and cannot imagine exclusively committing to one ecosystem.

Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by acdha on Monday September 09, 2024 @07:54PM (#41495648)
Inertia is real but that would make it all the more important not to lose existing users or appear behind to new buyers.
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by DidYaWipe on Monday September 09, 2024 @04:50PM (#41493642)
Siri (for all the absurd whining about it) met those expectations 10 years ago.
Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by thejohnconway on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @10:12AM (#41500976)
Hmm, my experience with Siri is that it's good for setting timers, okay at setting reminders, and that's about it.

Even reminders is pretty bad:

"Hey Siri, add celery to the shopping list" "Okay John, I've added celery to the shopping list list (sic)."

Shopping list: - Celery

"Hey Siri, remove celery from the shopping list" "Okay John, I've added celery to the shopping list list."

Shopping list: - Celery - Celery

This is not meeting expectations.

Re:Apple iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max by DidYaWipe on Tuesday September 10, 2024 @10:54AM (#41501416)
Ha hahah, that is indeed not good.

Although somewhere I'm sure we can find an '80s pop-culture vehicle that predicts those shortcomings as well.