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Re:Reclaim the Stack by callalex on Sunday September 08, 2024 @07:54PM (#41484293)
Locking knowledge behind something that isn’t publicly searchable or archivable works fine in the short term but what happens when Discord/Slack/whatever gears up for an IPO and limits all chat history to 1 week unless you pay up (oh and now you have a bunch of valuable knowledge stored up their with no migration tool so your only options are “pay up” or lose the knowledge).
Re:Reclaim the Stack by halfcat on Sunday September 08, 2024 @09:31PM (#41484761)
What’s recommended here? Self-hosted Discourse?
Re:Reclaim the Stack by heavyset_go on Sunday September 08, 2024 @10:34PM (#41484990)
Matrix and a wiki would solve the community and knowledge base issues.
Re:Reclaim the Stack by mplewis on Monday September 09, 2024 @03:00AM (#41486099)
Matrix has severe UX issues which drastically limit the community willing to use it on a regular basis.
Re:Reclaim the Stack by Arathorn on Monday September 09, 2024 @11:21AM (#41489370)
historically, yes. matrix 2.0 (due in two weeks) aims to fix this.
Re:Reclaim the Stack by tacker2000 on Monday September 09, 2024 @04:07AM (#41486424)
Github issues or discussions. Or some other kind of forum like Discourse as you mentioned
Re:Reclaim the Stack by Kiro on Monday September 09, 2024 @01:08AM (#41485617)
No-one complained when projects had IRC channels/servers, which are even worse since they have no history at all.
Re:Reclaim the Stack by okasaki on Monday September 09, 2024 @05:52AM (#41486909)
All IRC clients have local plain text logging and putting a .txt on a web server is trivial.
Re:Reclaim the Stack by Kiro on Monday September 09, 2024 @08:43AM (#41487976)
Local logging doesn't help much for searchability when you're new and it requires you to be online 24/7. Anyway, that's beside the point. Even if IRC had built-in server history it still has the same problems but I never saw people being outraged about it.
Re:Reclaim the Stack by Gormo on Monday September 09, 2024 @10:38AM (#41488955)
Good projects still do rely on IRC -- Libera.chat is full of proper channels -- and logging bots are ubiquitous.
Re:Reclaim the Stack by Kiro on Monday September 09, 2024 @12:44PM (#41490391)
And you never hear anyone complaining about those. "Locking knowledge" was never an argument before and it's not now.
Re:Reclaim the Stack by callalex on Monday September 09, 2024 @05:28PM (#41494147)
At least people treat IRC as ephemeral and place all documentation elsewhere. People are writing whole wikis inside of Discord that are not publicly searchable.