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Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by inkyoto on Saturday September 07, 2024 @03:01AM (#41472070)
Even if DNS is redirected, where DNS lookup request goes to next depends on the next hop, which is – for the prevailing majority of the internet users – the ISP.

Deep packet inspection hardware appliances have proliferated in their numbers in recent years, they are cheap, the hardware is highly performant, and they are capable of the highly sustained throughput. Redirecting DNS queries in UDP port 53 to any other destination of choice is what they can do without blinking an eye (if they had one). Or dropping / blackholing it.

Only a VPN tunnel can get through, however modern DPI appliances can also scan for VPN and VPN-like signatures in the traffic and drop those, too. The only viable and guaranteed to work solution to resist the tampering with the traffic is a VPN tunnel wrapped into a Shadow Socks tunnel that obfuscates traffic signatures and constantly changes ports it operates on to avoid detection.

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by ruthmarx on Saturday September 07, 2024 @07:41AM (#41473317)
DoH is sufficient to mitigate DPI.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by inkyoto on Saturday September 07, 2024 @08:44PM (#41477408)
Widely used DoH servers operate on fixed IP addresses (v4 and v6), connections to which can be dropped / blackholed, which is what people from at least the UK and Malaysia are reporting. DPI is not even required.
Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by ikt on Saturday September 07, 2024 @09:21AM (#41473802)
Co-incidentally Mullvad recently mentioned they're fighting back

https://mullvad.net/en/blog/introducing-defense-against-ai-g...

Re:Malaysia started mandating ISPs to redirect DNS queries t... by DanAtC on Saturday September 07, 2024 @02:03PM (#41475316)