Re:Stranded astronauts' capsule heads home without them
by thegrim33 on Friday September 06, 2024 @09:44PM
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Nobody is stranded. At no time does NASA not have a plan to evacuate the space station if there's an emergency. There's currently 7 people aboard and 5 space craft docked, all of which can carry multiple people, all of which can be used to get people off the station.
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Re:Stranded astronauts' capsule heads home without them
by AmericanChopper on Friday September 06, 2024 @10:15PM
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You’re describing a plan for how to deal with stranded astronauts. If I’m on a road trip and my car breaks down at a gas station, I’m stranded. Even if there are other people and other cars at the gas station, and even if I still have access to emergency services, and even if I have a plan for how to deal with being stranded at a gas station.
Re:Stranded astronauts' capsule heads home without them
by rkagerer on Friday September 06, 2024 @11:01PM
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I think some of us have a different (and perhaps colloquial) definition of stranded. Like, on a deserted island with no practical way home until some random ship happens to come by.
Re:Stranded astronauts' capsule heads home without them
by AmericanChopper on Friday September 06, 2024 @11:27PM
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Stranded means you have no means for moving from where you are, or really no practical/acceptable means (you could swim off a deserted island for instance, but that probably wouldn't be considered a practical means of moving off the island).
Boeing has stranded these astronauts on the ISS because it has no (acceptable) means of bringing them down, and the astronauts themselves have no personal means for doing so. If they want to become un-stranded then somebody will need to arrange the means for them to come down.
That doesn't mean that it's impossible for somebody else to provide those means, or that the means simply don't exist in any capacity. But they meet both the dictionary and common colloquial definition of stranded.
Re:Stranded astronauts' capsule heads home without them
by loa_in_ on Saturday September 07, 2024 @01:47AM
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Not if you all know you all share the same destination
Re:Stranded astronauts' capsule heads home without them
by ed_mercer on Friday September 06, 2024 @09:58PM
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In an emergency, can they really prep and launch a rocket quickly? Are we talking hours/days/week/months?
Re:Stranded astronauts' capsule heads home without them
by idontwantthis on Friday September 06, 2024 @10:07PM
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There is no emergency that would require launching a rocket. They have craft docked to the space station at all times that they can return to Earth on at a moment’s notice.
Re:Stranded astronauts' capsule heads home without them
by hinkley on Saturday September 07, 2024 @01:32AM
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And they are not using one of those because…
Re:Stranded astronauts' capsule heads home without them
by idontwantthis on Saturday September 07, 2024 @10:25AM
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Because more than 2 of them would need to come back to Earth.
Re:Stranded astronauts' capsule heads home without them
by hinkley on Saturday September 07, 2024 @02:25PM
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I thought about this overnight and isn’t the real problem that nobody is saying is that NASA never wants less than 1 re-entry module on even an empty ISS, so that if god forbid they had to evacuate everyone for any reason other than a dead station, that the next crew has two ways to get home?
So even though everyone fits in the existing modules there is no spare if they let these two go home.
Re:Stranded astronauts' capsule heads home without them
by idontwantthis on Saturday September 07, 2024 @05:14PM
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Yes exactly.
Re:Stranded astronauts' capsule heads home without them
by 6nf on Saturday September 07, 2024 @04:46AM
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No they don't. Dragon takes 4, Soyuz takes 3, 9 people on the ISS, none of the other pods are rated for crewed missions.