Re:Bringing insights into TCP resets and timeouts to Cloudfl...
by JumpCrisscross on Sunday September 08, 2024 @07:54PM
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Wild these guys weren’t force to seek bankruptcy protection from insurers. Don’t get me wrong: they should continue to exist. But shareholders should have been wiped out for the damage they did.
Re:Bringing insights into TCP resets and timeouts to Cloudfl...
by o11c on Sunday September 08, 2024 @10:20PM
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(If the author is reading this: bad formatting for fin: and acknumdiff: )
Once again a discussion that covers RST injection attacks fails to consider the one case I actually saw in the wild ...
My observation involved long-lived (much longer than typical for HTTP) TCP connections with low-but-nonzero traffic (there was an application-layer heartbeat). For at least some US residential IPs (some with effectively static allocation) connected to a datacenter, they would reliably get RST injected (to the client only, not the server) after being connected long enough (usually a couple hours, but not any obvious pattern).
Re:Bringing insights into TCP resets and timeouts to Cloudfl...
by accrual on Monday September 09, 2024 @01:18AM
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Maybe a fun idea - run an application on both sides of a remote TCP connection that records but doesn't respond to TCP RST packets. Then see how many times you get "reset".
Ha! Yes.
Once again a discussion that covers RST injection attacks fails to consider the one case I actually saw in the wild ...
My observation involved long-lived (much longer than typical for HTTP) TCP connections with low-but-nonzero traffic (there was an application-layer heartbeat). For at least some US residential IPs (some with effectively static allocation) connected to a datacenter, they would reliably get RST injected (to the client only, not the server) after being connected long enough (usually a couple hours, but not any obvious pattern).
These things are unfortunately rather common. This is also why I run SSH with a 5 second heartbeat duration, for example.