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Re:The Internet Archive has lost its appeal in Hachette vs. ... by zelphirkalt on Thursday September 05, 2024 @03:31AM (#41454404)
How about we feed an "AI" with it, like MS does with licensed code? Then we can host that AI and let people use that, without having it output where some text is from, just like MS does for code.
Re:The Internet Archive has lost its appeal in Hachette vs. ... by hilbert42 on Thursday September 05, 2024 @03:51AM (#41454518)
Right. Then there's the issue of compiled code which is the elephant in the room, as ultimately AI will be able to decompile code with ease. If it cannot, say through encryption, then AI will be able to emulate it.

If I can think this then I'd reckon I'm not alone, the thought must be high on the agenda for MS and like.

The implications are enormous.

Re:The Internet Archive has lost its appeal in Hachette vs. ... by loa_in_ on Thursday September 05, 2024 @06:06AM (#41455187)
It's time to move from tokenisation to training on full range of byte as input then
Re:The Internet Archive has lost its appeal in Hachette vs. ... by leobg on Thursday September 05, 2024 @06:08AM (#41455197)
Right. Just let OpenAI do it. Then it’s allowed. And internally, let the “model” be a 7zip compression algo. Just call it an “LLM”. Courts won’t know the difference. Haha
Re:The Internet Archive has lost its appeal in Hachette vs. ... by hilbert42 on Thursday September 05, 2024 @06:26AM (#41455268)
"Courts won’t know the difference."

Whether or not I'd suggest that if AI makes reverse-engineering easy (and I see no reason why it won't) then users will use it on an individual basis. Detecting the myriads of breaches would be a nightmare for any law/courts system. Ultimately, the paradigm will have to change.

Re:The Internet Archive has lost its appeal in Hachette vs. ... by zelphirkalt on Thursday September 05, 2024 @06:27AM (#41455277)
We could also abolish copyrights for software in general and for everyone, including the tech giants.
Re:The Internet Archive has lost its appeal in Hachette vs. ... by hilbert42 on Thursday September 05, 2024 @06:45AM (#41455357)
We could, but is that the best alternative?

Despite everything I've said here until now I'm not against creators receiving fair recompense for their efforts. What I'm against is the enormous inequity in copyright law which seriously disadvantages consumers. I believe it is not in the best economic or strategic interests of the nation for such inequity to exist—in fact, I reckon it's very damaging.

Solving the copyright problem won't be easy because it has its roots in a much bigger issue—that of social inequity and inequality.

Re:The Internet Archive has lost its appeal in Hachette vs. ... by account42 on Friday September 06, 2024 @06:40AM (#41464832)
> We could, but is that the best alternative?

Yes, absolutely. Insiting on business models that depend on scarcity when that scarcity doesn't actually exist is absurd and the costs to society are astronomical.

> Despite everything I've said here until now I'm not against creators receiving fair recompense for their efforts.

No copyright doesn't mean no copensation, it just means that compensation cannot be enforced on a per-copy basis. Creative works, including for-profit creations, have existed long before copyright.

But let's also not pretend that creators receive fair compensation today.