Re:Extraordinary Organizations: $170M company with no titles...
by gjm11 on Tuesday December 30, 2008 @05:04PM
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Er, no. John Gruber posts a lot of links, but what he doesn't generally do is to copy-and-paste someone else's stuff and try to make it look like he wrote it.
"They do have the handful of titles required as a public company... CEO, CFO, and the like. As of last January when we visited, that was it. Presumably they also have to "title" job postings so people know roughly what skills they're asking for!"
Re:Extraordinary Organizations: $170M company with no titles...
by aditya on Tuesday December 30, 2008 @04:58PM
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Reminds me of Nucor. It is twisted and surprising that companies that think about their employees' happiness first are not the norm, what we do have is megacorps with CEOs that make billions and let everyone else suffer, especially customers.
Re:Extraordinary Organizations: $170M company with no titles...
by jderick on Tuesday December 30, 2008 @10:45PM
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It makes some sense. It seems to be to be a sort of "fine grained capitalism". Not too different from the Silicon Valley, if you think of that as one big company. What I wonder is what prevents more companies from going this route?
Anyway, this is the original article: http://www.evolvingexcellence.com/blog/2008/01/no-titles-exc...
It would be interesting if HN could reparent/merge votes and comments in the case where two links to the same thing get submitted.
Allen J. Carlson > President, Chief Executive Officer, Director
Tricia L. Fulton > Chief Financial Officer
Jeffrey Cooper > Officer
Peter G. Robson > General Manager of Sun Hydraulics Limited
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=sun+hydraulics
I guess they don't have many titles.
CNC Machinist / Senior Product Design / Outside Sales Engineer
Clearly they have titles. Perhaps the vagueness of the article is actually indicative of it not being very accurate or telling the whole story.
http://www.evolvingexcellence.com/blog/2008/01/no-titles-exc...
"They do have the handful of titles required as a public company... CEO, CFO, and the like. As of last January when we visited, that was it. Presumably they also have to "title" job postings so people know roughly what skills they're asking for!"
But it appears not to be true; Royalty Trusts (e.g. http://finance.google.com/finance?q=pbt) list very few executive officers.
Edit
And here's a non-Royalty Trust with fewer executive offices than Sun Hydraulics:
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=AMEX:SOC
But it does seem that they have fewer executives than any operating company of a similar size.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2003/apr/27/theobserver.o...
I enjoyed his book "Maverick" a lot: http://tinyurl.com/7l6mfp , the newer 'Seven day weekend" is not bad either.
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_18/b3982075....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2003/apr/27/theobserver.o...
http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/WL-Gore-amp...