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Re:How not to get acquired by mvkel on Thursday June 21, 2012 @01:49PM (#4143269)
The lesson learned here isn't that FeeFighters fucked up their acquisition. It's that you should be especially wary building businesses that depend almost entirely on another startup.

Put another way, you should only use services that are pretty obviously going to stay around and aren't just a few years old with no solid track record.

A service may be perfect for your business to hook into, but is it really realistic to expect something like Samurai to stick around for 5-10 years?

EDIT: I would also say that yes, FeeFighters _did_ royally eff up the acquisition process in that they threw their customers under the bus. It lends credence to the idea that they probably had no customers to begin with.

Also, GroupOn is not the enemy here. They acquired technology, talent, whatever. It's in their best interest to negotiate terms that are favorable to GroupOn. If FeeFighters didn't go to bat for their current customers, why would GroupOn volunteer to take on that burden?

Re:How not to get acquired by whit537 on Thursday June 21, 2012 @01:55PM (#4143299)
Yeah, no kidding. I ended up with a merchant account with fusty old FirstData out of the ordeal. I look at FirstData and their portal, www.mymerchantoffice.com, in a whole new light now. It may suck, but I can expect it to suck consistently for years to come.

It also feels now like I should be vaulting cards with multiple vendors to avoid a single point of failure. As mentioned I went with Stripe, who are similarly green. I'm in the process of moving my merchant account over to Braintree. Also looking at WePay and Dwolla. Who else?

Re:How not to get acquired by jusben1369 on Thursday June 21, 2012 @03:22PM (#4143748)
Shameless plug for Spreedlycore.com where you can vault your cards separately and work with all the gateways listed here. This is an extreme example (gone into limbo in this case) but one of the motivations for our offering. You could have migrated to Stripe/Braintree etc via a config change.
Re:How not to get acquired by michaeledwards on Thursday June 21, 2012 @08:03PM (#4144764)
This looks really cool.
Re:How not to get acquired by polyfractal on Thursday June 21, 2012 @03:08PM (#4143685)
Braintree is pretty great, I like working with their API and customer service (always ready and willing to talk on the phone, which is great).

Avoid Authorize.Net like the plague. Horrifically bad XML API that will make you want to claw your eyes out.

Re:How not to get acquired by tzs on Thursday June 21, 2012 @03:45PM (#4143854)
Where is there XML in Authorize.Net's API? Here's how you charge a card using the AIM (Advanced Integration Method) interface (Perl sample code):

    my $post_values	= 
    {
        "x_login"			=> "API_LOGIN_ID",
        "x_tran_key"		=> "TRANSACTION_KEY",
        "x_version"			=> "3.1",
        "x_delim_data"		=> "TRUE",
        "x_delim_char"		=> "|",
        "x_relay_response"	=> "FALSE",
        "x_type"			=> "AUTH_CAPTURE",
        "x_method"			=> "CC",
        "x_card_num"		=> "4111111111111111",
        "x_exp_date"		=> "0115",
        "x_amount"			=> "19.99",
        "x_description"		=> "Sample Transaction",
        "x_first_name"		=> "John",
        "x_last_name"		=> "Doe",
        "x_address"			=> "1234 Street",
        "x_state"			=> "WA",
        "x_zip"				=> "98004"	
    };
    my $useragent	= LWP::UserAgent->new( protocols_allowed => ["https"] );
    my $request		= POST( $post_url, $post_values );
    my $response	= $useragent->request( $request );
That's just a straightforward form post to a CGI. Result is a line of CSV data. No XML in sight.

Does the non-AIM option (I forget what it is called) use XML?

Re:How not to get acquired by polyfractal on Thursday June 21, 2012 @04:29PM (#4144035)
I don't have the code handy (was client work for a third party), but we definitely used XML through Auth.net's AIM. Here are the API docs for it:

http://www.authorize.net/support/AIM_guide_XML.pdf

We also used XML through their CIM to manage customer profiles. To be fair, this was all in PHP, and the code was inherited so I'm not sure if there was a better way to deal with Auth.net's API.

I do know that their dashboards were thoroughly unpleasant to deal with and I felt the API was obtuse in many different locations.

Re:How not to get acquired by tzs on Thursday June 21, 2012 @04:43PM (#4144089)
Interesting. Here's the non-XML AIM guide: http://www.authorize.net/support/AIM_guide.pdf

That's the one we use. I didn't even know they had an XML option--and now I'm going to try to forget it! :-)

Re:How not to get acquired by polyfractal on Thursday June 21, 2012 @06:30PM (#4144501)
Interesting! I had no idea they had a non-XML option. If I was still working on the project, I'd totally push for that.

Good to know for future projects =)

Re:How not to get acquired by jauer on Thursday June 21, 2012 @05:15PM (#4144225)
Business::OnlinePayment is one of those standup CPAN libraries that may not be well known but solves real(world) problems. I'm using it in a line of business app at work and when we ditched authorize.net I migrated to ippay by changing a couple lines of code.
Re:How not to get acquired by snorkel on Thursday June 21, 2012 @04:50PM (#4144118)
I think the perl lib formats and sends this as XML, and perhaps dropping down to XML is required if the language lib isn't up to date.
Re:How not to get acquired by mike-cardwell on Thursday June 21, 2012 @05:14PM (#4144222)
No it doesn't
Re:How not to get acquired by jmathai on Thursday June 21, 2012 @03:43PM (#4143843)
But it'll be a horrifically bad XML API for years and years :)
Re:How not to get acquired by chrismckee on Thursday June 21, 2012 @06:00PM (#4144404)
You should try WorldPay if your looking for shit but consistent. WorldPay will be around for ever, as will their dog-rough "web service" written by someone who hates the web and where verification tokens are optional. Checkout this FAB API http://www.worldpay.com/support/kb/bg/recurringpayments/rpfp...
Re:How not to get acquired by jmathai on Friday June 22, 2012 @12:37AM (#4145423)
That's not really much worse than Authorize.net.

Don't get me wrong. I hate Authorize.net and don't plan on using them for anything in the future. I'd rather refactor code than write comma separated string code once knowing it will work forever.

Re:How not to get acquired by pavel_lishin on Thursday June 21, 2012 @04:18PM (#4143985)
I used Authorize.net at a previous employer, and don't remember the API being too terrible. We wrote a wrapper for it, and forgot all about it until we needed to add features.
Re:How not to get acquired by BallinBige on Thursday June 21, 2012 @09:13PM (#4144966)
So true! First Data is the grandpa in the room. Their site doesnt render properly on Chrome even :(
Re:How not to get acquired by whit537 on Thursday June 21, 2012 @02:02PM (#4143345)
I experienced great customer service from FeeFighters prior to the acquisition, so in my experience it's not true that "FeeFighters didn't go to bat for their current customers."

The "enemy" to my mind is the chaos that results from not being transparent and kind.

Re:How not to get acquired by ryanmolden on Thursday June 21, 2012 @02:28PM (#4143480)
I believe he meant go to bat during the acquisition deal making. Regardless of how awesome their CS was pre-acquisition if there were no terms regarding current customers/continuity during the acquisition talks then they didn't "go to bat for their customers".
Re:How not to get acquired by whit537 on Thursday June 21, 2012 @02:32PM (#4143497)
Roger that. Thank you.