This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10.

Re:This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10. by DrJokepu on Thursday June 21, 2012 @11:45AM (#4142548)

Obviously this is a bug in IE that needs to be fixed and it's Microsoft's responsibility to ensure that their browser doesn't crash in invalid input, but end users don't actually care about the browser either (they don't even know what a browser is), they care about your site crashing.

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Re:This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10. by mibbitier on Thursday June 21, 2012 @12:06PM (#4142650)

That's incorrect.

If your TV crashed would you blame the TV program you were watching at the time?

People know the difference between software and content. Content should never be able to crash software.

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Re:This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10. by DrJokepu on Thursday June 21, 2012 @12:08PM (#4142664)

I agree with you in that content should never be able to crash software.

I disagree with you TV example, however. If the same TV show repeatedly crashed one of the most popular TV models, consumers would blame the show.

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Re:This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10. by omarrr on Thursday June 21, 2012 @04:09PM (#4143955)

well, that would be stupid

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Re:This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10. by duaneb on Thursday June 21, 2012 @06:28PM (#4144495)

Not necessarily - I don't understand how software interacts with, for example, digital cable. I've seen certain channels crash my cable box before. It wouldn't be that surprising to see a certain show reliably crash the cable box.

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Re:This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10. by tjic on Thursday June 21, 2012 @09:16PM (#4144974)

A topic very much like this one makes up a chapter in the wonderful book Godel, Escher, Bach http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del,_Escher,_Bach

Two characters are in a race: one to build an impervious record player, the other to design a record that - when played - sets up feedback in the record player sufficient to destroy it.

It's a stunningly simple intro to a fairly deep topic: NP completeness, input validation, etc.

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Re:This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10. by Alex3917 on Thursday June 21, 2012 @01:38PM (#4143213)

"If your TV crashed would you blame the TV program you were watching at the time?"

I'm not positive, but I believe that it's possible for TV shows to crash TVs, which is why there are standards in that specify what kind of content you are allowed to broadcast:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast-safe

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Re:This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10. by danielweber on Thursday June 21, 2012 @01:25PM (#4143141)

I had an episode of a TV show on videotape that literally crashed my TV. I'm not kidding. Whenever the show got to a certain point the TV would turn off.

I'm 99% sure that it was something invalid in the closed captioning.

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Re:This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10. by notatoad on Thursday June 21, 2012 @02:01PM (#4143339)

if my TV shut down every time i tried to watch one specific show and never any other time, i might blame that show, yes.

people should know the difference, but they don't.

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Re:This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10. by nostrademons on Thursday June 21, 2012 @04:05PM (#4143942)

Back in 2000, I finally switched from Netscape to Internet Explorer because DoubleClick's JS hung Netscape. When a decent number of sites work in one browser but not the other, I go look for another browser.

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Re:This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10. by enjo on Thursday June 21, 2012 @12:10PM (#4142672)

100% correct in my experience.

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Re:This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10. by glennos on Thursday June 21, 2012 @01:11PM (#4143052)

I'd say that most do care about their browser. Chrome wouldn't have sped to such popularity otherwise, nor Firefox before it, nor Mozilla, nor... IE. If users didn't care we'd perhaps all still be using Mosaic.

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Re:This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10. by Karunamon on Thursday June 21, 2012 @08:07PM (#4144779)

One could make a good argument that Chrome was only adopted due to Google's popularity in the search space, and leveraging that to push messages along the lines of "Upgrade your browser".

Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I don't think Chrome would be anything near what it is today without all of the google.com referrals.

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Re:This page crashes Internet Explorer, even version 9 and 10. by Drakim on Friday June 22, 2012 @03:14AM (#4145808)

This is most likely true for Chrome yes, but it's almost definitely true for IE. I feel confident claiming that at the very least half of the IE users use it because they don't have a choice or because they got it as default on Windows.

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