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Re:Beyond the Brew: The Medicinal Power of Hops by amelius on Monday September 02, 2024 @07:58AM (#41424705)
> So it’s not unreasonable that other plants may have also developed specific chemicals in response to some pressure from animals.

Wouldn't it make most sense for plants to develop chemicals that kill us, rather than cure us from a disease?

Re:Beyond the Brew: The Medicinal Power of Hops by nkrisc on Monday September 02, 2024 @08:37AM (#41424923)
I don’t mean that medicinal plants developed those properties to benefit us, but rather it may have evolved as a response to some animal for some purpose, and it happens to be beneficial to us in some way.

Take caffeine for example, likely it evolved as a defense against pests.

Re:Beyond the Brew: The Medicinal Power of Hops by Modified3019 on Monday September 02, 2024 @11:29AM (#41426264)
Caffeine at low levels in flowers can stimulate insect activity and even potentially memory, increasing pollination activity.

At higher concentrations yeah it’s an insecticide.

Re:Beyond the Brew: The Medicinal Power of Hops by nkrisc on Monday September 02, 2024 @11:36AM (#41426328)
Cool, I didn’t know that. But all the same, the same principle applies.
Re:Beyond the Brew: The Medicinal Power of Hops by analog31 on Monday September 02, 2024 @12:21PM (#41426699)
Possibly too costly. From what I've read, every chemical defense has a metabolic cost. This is why antibiotic resistant bacteria will lose their resistance over many generations if not constantly challenged by the antibiotic.

On the other hand, some plants do kill us.