News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Building LLMs from the Ground Up: A 3-Hour Coding Workshop by atoav on Sunday September 01, 2024 @04:54AM (#41415339)
I am from Europe and I am not completely sure about that to be honest. I also prefer programming.

I also dislike software development as it reminds me of developing a photograhic negative – like "oh let's check out how the software we developed came out".

It should be software engineering and it should be held to a similar standard as other engineering fields if it isn't done in a non-professional context.

Re:Building LLMs from the Ground Up: A 3-Hour Coding Workshop by reichstein on Sunday September 01, 2024 @05:38AM (#41415522)
The word "development" can mean several things. I don't think "software development" sounds bad when grouped with a phrase like "urban development". It describes growing and tuning software for, well, working better, solving more needs, and with fewer failure modes.

I do agree that a "coder" creates code, and a programmer creates programs. I expect more of a complete program than of a bunch of code. If a text says "coder", it does set an expectation about the professionalism of the text. And I expect even more from a software solution created by a software engineer. At least a specification!

Still, I, a professional software engineer and programmer, also write "code" for throwaway scripts, or just for myself, or that never gets completed. Or for fun. I will read articles by and for coders too.

The word is a signal. It's neither good nor bad, but If that's not the signal the author wants to send, they should work on their communication.

Re:Building LLMs from the Ground Up: A 3-Hour Coding Workshop by mdp2021 on Sunday September 01, 2024 @05:46AM (#41415551)
> If that's not the signal the author wants to send

You can't use a language that will be taken by everyone the same way. The public is heterogeneous - its subsets will use different "codes".

Re:Building LLMs from the Ground Up: A 3-Hour Coding Workshop by mdp2021 on Sunday September 01, 2024 @05:08AM (#41415394)
> software development

Wrong angle. There is a problem, your consideration of the problem, the refinement of your solution to the problem: the solution gradually unfolds - it is developed.