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Re:Freetube is the best way to watch YouTube by fsckboy on Saturday August 31, 2024 @08:19PM (#41413072)
>this culture of expecting Google to host the data then freeloading off it by blocking the tracking and ads is also a bit ugly

it's not ugly at all: parasites deserve their place in the ecosystem right alongside carnivores.

What I don't like is people like this who broadcast and evangelize as if google will allow it to keep happening. I'd rather it survived longer hiding under the radar.

"hey everybody I discovered a secret hack to get a free donut with your coffee!!!"... how about just keep doing it yourself, donuts for life?

Re:Freetube is the best way to watch YouTube by c22 on Saturday August 31, 2024 @08:27PM (#41413123)
That definitely seems like the least ethical response to finding a free donut loophole? Unless it's not a loophole at all, but just a marketing tactic deployed by the coffeemaker.
Re:Freetube is the best way to watch YouTube by ddtaylor on Saturday August 31, 2024 @09:01PM (#41413324)
Full donut disclosure.
Re:Freetube is the best way to watch YouTube by fsckboy on Sunday September 01, 2024 @12:08PM (#41418013)
you are responding to a comment that started by justifying parasitism. To make an effective counter argument along the lines you've chosen, you need to address that part of the comment and explain why parasites in nature don't "deserve" to exist, or at least show that they are also unethical. That is/ought to be something easy to prove, right?
Re:Freetube is the best way to watch YouTube by c22 on Sunday September 01, 2024 @01:39PM (#41418717)
Responding to a comment does not imply that one disagrees with the entirety or any part of said comment and does not necessitate crafting an effective counter argument. In fact, I am not making an argument as to parasitism, parasites, or their right to exist at all.

The closest thing I am making to an argument is that, as a human, if you find what you believe to be a bug in a system and you choose to exploit the bug repeatedly for your own gain while keeping it a secret to yourself, this is, in fact, the least ethical choice you, as a human, can make. (More ethical choices include: not telling anyone but walking away and never exploiting the bug again, telling the system maintainers about the bug confidentially, exposing the bug publicly, etc...)

And I guess, in some way, my response is implying that wanting other humans to make the least ethical choice in these sorts of situations and displaying animosity towards those who make a more ethical choice is a little bit strange.

Re:Freetube is the best way to watch YouTube by fsckboy on Sunday September 01, 2024 @02:33PM (#41419136)
> the least ethical choice you, as a human, can make

you assigned me "human", but I identify as a parasite

i follow the laws of logic, and if the logic of the system gives me a donut, I will take the donut. if the logic changes and i don't get a donut, i will not complain. It is not unethical to follow the logic of the system.

now, as to you as a human, are you saying that you have never downloaded a youtube video to a file on your disk?

Re:Freetube is the best way to watch YouTube by c22 on Sunday September 01, 2024 @07:09PM (#41421151)
No, I am not saying anything like that. I think we must be talking past eachother here.