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Re:Computer Scientists Prove That Heat Destroys Entanglement by marginalia_nu on Thursday August 29, 2024 @06:51AM (#41389426)
Been a while since I've been working in the field, but wouldn't we expect this finding through the model of dissipation and decoherence? Seems like Caldeira & Leggett all over again.
Re:Computer Scientists Prove That Heat Destroys Entanglement by gautampk on Thursday August 29, 2024 @07:04AM (#41389510)
I think the naive expectation would be that a hot state would be highly entangled and non-separable. The non-separability is what leads to decoherence when you do a partial trace. You can arbitrarily split any multi-part Hilbert space into a "system" and an "environment" and then trace out the environment. If they are highy entangled with one another then the resulting system-without-environment will be decohered.
Re:Computer Scientists Prove That Heat Destroys Entanglement by gradschoolfail on Saturday August 31, 2024 @10:50PM (#41413835)
Alternatively formulated, this suggests that an entangled state, if weakly coupled to a bath at high temperature and allowed to thermalize, will become fully disentangled at a finite time. (p1)

hinting that something different is happening here (from the C&L model mentioned below.)

Indeed the CS guys are probably looking for a way to redefine entanglement (entropy, as you summarized above), to essentially “work” in the same way as what they have in their preprint, but also cover the prethermalized cases..

Re:Computer Scientists Prove That Heat Destroys Entanglement by gradschoolfail on Thursday August 29, 2024 @07:01AM (#41389487)
Hmm, C&L argument involves taking a classical limit, does it not? This paper seems “fully quantum” (provided that you agree that the maximally mixed “Gibbs” state should not be considered a “classical” limit, only an infinite temp limit)
Re:Computer Scientists Prove That Heat Destroys Entanglement by marginalia_nu on Thursday August 29, 2024 @07:23AM (#41389631)
Yeah maybe that's what's bothering me, what is the high temperature limit if not the classical limit?
Re:Computer Scientists Prove That Heat Destroys Entanglement by gradschoolfail on Thursday August 29, 2024 @07:35AM (#41389729)
Heh, you might be additionally bothered that for the C&L model, the strong coupling (to heat bath) limit can also be considered the (/a?) classical limit, e.g.

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1603.07495