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Re:The Arrest of Pavel Durov Is a Reminder That Telegram Is ... by diggan on Monday August 26, 2024 @05:38PM (#41362485)
> It depends on what you mean by "as a whole". I mean that Telegram by default can read all your private chats

Yes, this is the expectation. You use someone else's platform that doesn't have E2E, you assume they can read your messages and will help law enforcement to do the same. No surprise there.

Doesn't mean their E2E feature isn't secure, or that the platform as a whole isn't secure. Facebook surely shares their Facebook + Whatsapp data with US law enforcement, we wouldn't call Facebook/Whatsapp insecure just because of that.

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Re:The Arrest of Pavel Durov Is a Reminder That Telegram Is ... by fsflover on Monday August 26, 2024 @06:12PM (#41362753)
> we wouldn't call Facebook/Whatsapp insecure just because of that.

I and many others certainly would.

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Re:The Arrest of Pavel Durov Is a Reminder That Telegram Is ... by rsynnott on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:17AM (#41366296)
Whatsapp does, as far as anyone can tell, have e2e encryption. Now in principle it may be vulnerable to a government forcing Facebook to compromise it, but it's there.
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