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Re:Eating the Birds of America: Audubon's Culinary Reviews o... by AdmiralAsshat on Monday August 26, 2024 @02:38PM (#41360265)
First the foie gras, now this. Are there any other "Torture the creature before eating it" French dishes we should know about?
Re:Eating the Birds of America: Audubon's Culinary Reviews o... by dfxm12 on Monday August 26, 2024 @03:01PM (#41360519)
Why single out France or foie gras? When you look at factory farms across the globe, force feeding ducks is just one of many ways we torture the animals we eat.
Re:Eating the Birds of America: Audubon's Culinary Reviews o... by codetrotter on Monday August 26, 2024 @04:51PM (#41362003)
> Why single out France or four gras?

Because foie gras is defined as the liver of a duck or goose fattened by force feeding.

If the animal wasn’t force fed, it literally wouldn’t be foie gras.

Most other forms of animal cruelty in food production is because of industrialization. We could clean up many of those and still sell the products without so much mistreatment.

Foie gras can only be made by mistreating the animal. So it’s gonna be specifically called out.

Re:Eating the Birds of America: Audubon's Culinary Reviews o... by lechatpito1 on Monday August 26, 2024 @05:30PM (#41362409)
This is a misconception, migrating birds naturally overfeed before taking their long flights [1] and a few farms actually produce natural foie gras [2]. There was also a NYT article about a farm in Spain producing natural goose foie gras by trapping migrating geese. [ref needed]

Obviously this is totally marginal compared to the size of foie gras industry.

See

[1] https://honest-food.net/wild-foie-gras-is-real/

[2] https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/food-and-wine/food-tren...

[3] https://modcarn.com/natural-foie-gras-in-the-wild/

Re:Eating the Birds of America: Audubon's Culinary Reviews o... by salad-tycoon on Monday August 26, 2024 @06:41PM (#41362936)
Mistreating? They sure like to eat. Mistreatment if you were aiming for a long healthy life but this may not be what you are assuming it to be.
Re:Eating the Birds of America: Audubon's Culinary Reviews o... by Loughla on Monday August 26, 2024 @06:57PM (#41363028)
It's certainly mistreatment. They're fed until they can literally hold no more. It's not great.
Re:Eating the Birds of America: Audubon's Culinary Reviews o... by bobthepanda on Monday August 26, 2024 @07:03PM (#41363066)
the "force" in "force-feeding" is a pretty important distinction
Re:Eating the Birds of America: Audubon's Culinary Reviews o... by samatman on Monday August 26, 2024 @09:36PM (#41363873)
The word 'gavage' does not have the same effect. Funny what can turn on a phrase.
Re:Eating the Birds of America: Audubon's Culinary Reviews o... by bobthepanda on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @12:27PM (#41369358)
It turns out people understand uncommon foreign loanwords less.
Re:Eating the Birds of America: Audubon's Culinary Reviews o... by iamacyborg on Monday August 26, 2024 @05:30PM (#41362414)
> Foie gras can only be made by mistreating the animal.

This is not true.

Re:Eating the Birds of America: Audubon's Culinary Reviews o... by alnwlsn on Monday August 26, 2024 @02:55PM (#41360442)
Lobster?
Re:Eating the Birds of America: Audubon's Culinary Reviews o... by AdmiralAsshat on Monday August 26, 2024 @02:57PM (#41360467)
I'm not aware of any recipes that force the lobster to gorge itself before killing it? Most lobster recipes usually involve bisecting the lobster's head with a sharp knife (killing it instantly), or dunking it into boiling water (which is probably incredibly painful for the duration, but ostensibly kills it within 10 seconds or so).
Re:Eating the Birds of America: Audubon's Culinary Reviews o... by darby_nine on Monday August 26, 2024 @04:22PM (#41361584)
> I'm not aware of any recipes that force the lobster to gorge itself before killing it?

Presumably the above poster is referring to the viewing of the practice of boiling the lobster alive as torture.

Re:Eating the Birds of America: Audubon's Culinary Reviews o... by Morizero on Monday August 26, 2024 @04:48PM (#41361959)
Not OP but yeah, it's even illegal in some places: https://i.redd.it/9njvxxae6pad1.png
Re:Eating the Birds of America: Audubon's Culinary Reviews o... by dgacmu on Monday August 26, 2024 @05:36PM (#41362463)
Not french per se, but the victorians also ate "slink veal" - an unborn calf either spontaneously aborted or removed from the carcass after slaughter. Not too popular (or legal) today.
Re:Eating the Birds of America: Audubon's Culinary Reviews o... by standardUser on Monday August 26, 2024 @08:32PM (#41363537)
South Korea has that covered. There's a (presumably minor) tradition of eating things like fish, squid and octopus while they are still alive.

Similarly, I ate drunken prawns in China, though I can't say for certain if those shrimp were stunned or actually dead.

Re:Eating the Birds of America: Audubon's Culinary Reviews o... by wazoox on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @03:40AM (#41365345)
Snails are put to diet for a few days, then kept in salt and vinegar to "slime out" for 24 to 48h -- probably quite unpleasant for them.