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Re:Linux: We need tiling desktop environments by Suppafly on Monday August 26, 2024 @11:57AM (#41358484)
>I think tiling is great for terminals, but not for the whole desktop (I don't want my web browser or video player to be resized because I open a new program).

This, I can't imagine anyone wanting that sort of tiling. Anytime I have a use case for tiling in my own job it ends up being impossible to get things tiled the way I want and also have the things I don't want tiled setup correctly on my other screen.

Re:Linux: We need tiling desktop environments by rout39574 on Monday August 26, 2024 @12:22PM (#41358788)
Years of XMonad use here. Really, it's not the interference you are imagining.

Much of the time I have a web browser using a whole portrait-aligned monitor, but sometimes I feel like having it 2-up in a landscape monitor.

The win of nice clean window separation, without giving up significant percentage of my display space to window decoration, is -profound-.

I have one pixel borders around my shells, and I have it because I fiddled with zero and decided I liked one better. How many pixels do you lose to decoration, so you can mouse over them cleanly? That's a major win.

Re:Linux: We need tiling desktop environments by nox101 on Monday August 26, 2024 @12:37PM (#41358958)
> The win of nice clean window separation, without giving up significant percentage of my display space to window decoration, is -profound-.

What does this have to do with a tiling window manager? I'd expect the app decides how to display window decoration, not the window manager. In fact I can confirm that right now since Chrome has different window decoration than say TextEdit. Also, scrollbars, macOS has them invisible by default so they don't take any space.

As for 2-up. Both Windows and Mac have shortcuts for that case

Re:Linux: We need tiling desktop environments by rout39574 on Monday August 26, 2024 @12:42PM (#41359001)
You're incorrect: there might be some decoration provided by the app, but there's a layer outside of that which is configured by the window manager. That's the title bar, and the little icons by which you maximize/ minimize/ "Iconify"... do people still do that?..

Plus thumbs at the corners, for some displays.

Re:Linux: We need tiling desktop environments by penteract on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @07:56PM (#41374573)
That's something that's different between X11 and Wayland - in Wayland, windows are responsible for their own decoration (I presume Xwayland handles decoration for X11 windows running through Wayland). This makes it quite a bit harder to hide all decorations on Wayland - various UI toolkits have ways that the end-user can tell them to hide bits, but they all operate differently and don't cover everything.
Re:Linux: We need tiling desktop environments by shadowgovt on Monday August 26, 2024 @12:32PM (#41358903)
Same experience with XMonad here. With modern responsive web UIs, I rarely find issue with resizing getting in my way.

When I do, I either keep the fullscreen browser on a dedicated desktop or nudge the split point until I'm happy.

Re:Linux: We need tiling desktop environments by prmoustache on Monday August 26, 2024 @12:25PM (#41358828)
Most tiling managers are in fact hybrid and allow floating windows. That is at least the case with sway and i3.
Re:Linux: We need tiling desktop environments by rout39574 on Monday August 26, 2024 @12:49PM (#41359077)
I'm not aware of any that don't include a floating option.