Re:Is Telegram really an encrypted messaging app?
by mubu on Sunday August 25, 2024 @05:46PM
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Sorry, but as someone who's completely out of the loop with these things. What's DEFCON/Blackhat or GITEX about and why shouldn't you bring your personal phone?
I'm genuinely interested.
Re:Is Telegram really an encrypted messaging app?
by jijji on Sunday August 25, 2024 @05:54PM
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defcon and blackhat are hacker/computer security conferences started by Jeff Moss (aka DT or Dark Tangent) in 1993 and held at the end of July or early August every year in Las Vegas.... The reason you don't bring your phone is it might get hacked
Re:Is Telegram really an encrypted messaging app?
by Account_Removed on Sunday August 25, 2024 @06:00PM
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Scaremongering (unless you have old/unsupported phone). Why would anyone want to potentially burn their hundreds of thousands- worth exploit on your phone?
https://zerodium.com/program.html
Re:Is Telegram really an encrypted messaging app?
by 2snakes on Sunday August 25, 2024 @06:13PM
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For the lulz
Re:Is Telegram really an encrypted messaging app?
by rustcleaner on Monday August 26, 2024 @02:08AM
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Best reason of any!
Re:Is Telegram really an encrypted messaging app?
by reissbaker on Monday August 26, 2024 @12:52AM
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Because the attendees are high-value targets who often have elevated permissions inside the firms or governments they work in, and that's worth even more.
Re:Is Telegram really an encrypted messaging app?
by alephnerd on Monday August 26, 2024 @05:05AM
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On a separate note, Zerodium is dead now. They're in the middle of an active fire sale, but the Zero Day market's bottom fell out now that countries are increasingly moving exploit development in-house or to vendors that can do both zero day acquisition AND exploit deployment (which Zerodium cannot do as an American company).
Also, u/reissbaker's answer is correct.
Re:Is Telegram really an encrypted messaging app?
by ParetoOptimal on Monday August 26, 2024 @10:27AM
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Skiddies are renowned for their rational thoughts and actions.
The UAE requires decryption keys as part of their Telco regulations.
If Telegram can operate in the UAE without VPN (and it can), then at the very least the UAE MoI has access.
They (and their shadow firms like G42 and G42's shadow firms) were always a major buyer for offensive capabilities at GITEX.
On that note, NEVER bring your personal phone to DEFCON/Blackhat or GITEX.
Edit: cannot reply below so answering here
Cybersecurity conferences.
DEFCON/Blackhat happen during the same week, so you have a lot of script kiddies who lack common sense trying to pwn random workloads. They almost always get caught (and charged - happens every year), but it's a headache.
GITEX is MENA and Asia's largest cybersecurity conference. You have intelligence agencies from most of the Middle East, Africa, Europe, and Asia attending, plus a lot of corporate espionage because of polticially connected MSSPs as well as massive defense tenders.