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Re:Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport by anigbrowl on Saturday August 24, 2024 @10:45PM (#41343917)
Free speech is not something they value. Individual rights aren’t valued.

Nonsense. Of course Europeans value those things, but they're also mindful of the fact that such freedoms can be abused, sometimes with catastrophic consequences.

Re:Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport by karpatic on Sunday August 25, 2024 @12:11AM (#41344318)
beguiling denial.
Re:Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport by vdqtp3 on Sunday August 25, 2024 @12:54AM (#41344494)
When you support literally jailing people for speech you don't like, you don't support free speech.

The clear-cut example I usually pull out - there's PLENTY more.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/31/23004339/uk-twitter-user-...

Re:Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport by croes on Sunday August 25, 2024 @02:08AM (#41344819)
So he wasn't jailed.
Re:Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport by walthamstow on Sunday August 25, 2024 @05:04AM (#41345744)
So much for clear-cut example!
Re:Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport by adammarples on Sunday August 25, 2024 @06:15AM (#41346127)
It's still baffling that he could have been, and that this law exists at all
Re:Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport by DonHopkins on Sunday August 25, 2024 @05:55AM (#41346014)
So we can all agree that Trump certainly doesn't support free speech.

And he's AMERICAN.

Re:Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport by anigbrowl on Sunday August 25, 2024 @07:22PM (#41352428)
I fail to see what this has to do with European conceptions of free speech in general. You may recall that Britain went out of its way to leave the EU, in part citing its dislike of the EU's legal concept of fundamental rights.
Re:Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport by throw310822 on Sunday August 25, 2024 @02:58AM (#41345065)
Of course people who don't value much free speech say that they're mindful of the fact that freedom can be abused etc. Nobody will ever say "yes I like censorship because I am a reactionary".

In general, remember that villains almost always justify their action as necessary or just- only in movies their stated motive is obviously egoistical.

Re:Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport by TeMPOraL on Sunday August 25, 2024 @06:13AM (#41346116)
> Nobody will ever say "yes I like censorship because I am a reactionary".

Yes, because no one except idiots will say "I am reactionary", and no one except idiots believe that "because I am reactionary" is a valid explanation of anything. Political categories are dumb, and most people aren't stupid enough to define themselves by them.