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Re:Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from Califo... by bArray on Thursday August 22, 2024 @05:30AM (#41318327)
Exactly. We're all expected to suffer the inconvenience of soggy straws to offset this guys near daily commute.

And it's not just this. Near all elites have unsustainable lifestyles that we are expected to offset by changing our daily habits.

Re:Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from Califo... by scarab92 on Thursday August 22, 2024 @05:34AM (#41318347)
Private jets should be required to burn biofuels or purchase carbon offsets.

If you can afford a private jet, you can easily afford to make it carbon neutral.

Re:Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from Califo... by passwordoops on Thursday August 22, 2024 @06:05AM (#41318494)
How about this instead: if the company you are a CxO at has ever once spoken about how sustainable/green/environmental it is, you're not allowed private jets. In fact if the trip doesn't require you to cross an ocean, you can take a bike.

Any violators will be held personally liable with a fine up to 150% of said corporation's global profits

Re:Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from Califo... by maxehmookau on Thursday August 22, 2024 @05:52AM (#41318441)
Taxes on jet fuel for private usage should be 3x higher too.

It's not real money to these folks; I doubt he'd even notice.

Re:Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from Califo... by pjc50 on Thursday August 22, 2024 @07:34AM (#41319073)
Insanely, the Chicago Convention of 1944 exempts international flights from any fuel tax. https://www.icao.int/publications/pages/doc7300.aspx

Various attempts to work round this without rewriting the convention have been discussed, e.g. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn00... but I don't think they've got anywhere.

The US _might_ be able to tax fuel on domestic flights, but that would result in the California to Seattle flight going via Canada to avoid the tax.

Re:Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from Califo... by wkat4242 on Thursday August 22, 2024 @12:02PM (#41321697)
Part of this has a decent reason: If fuel is much cheaper in e.g. Dubai, airlines will chock their planes full of fuel instead of the optimised amount, leading to overburning of fuel due to excessive transportation of it.

And the opposite, they will skimp on fuel going inbound to there. Of course fuel qty is the captain's decision, however a lot of airlines already pressure those. As one example Ryanair had a "list of shame" of captains bringing too much safety fuel in their eyes.

Re:Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from Califo... by maxehmookau on Friday August 23, 2024 @05:16AM (#41327425)
The idea that airlines can pressure captains in to doing _anything_ is terrifying and should be utterly outlawed.
Re:Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from Califo... by harha on Thursday August 22, 2024 @06:31AM (#41318630)
If you consider the per seat cost compared to commercial, I don’t think making it a bit more expensive will move the needle.
Re:Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from Califo... by maxehmookau on Thursday August 22, 2024 @08:15AM (#41319404)
Exactly. And the old story of "oh well the rich will take their money elsewhere" won't work. They need to stay in the US, that's the whole point.

Maybe there will be a point where it works out cheaper to fly to another country to fuel up though. I'm sure some tax policy folks could figure this out better than I.

Tax the ~~rich~~ ultra-wealthy, and their thoughtless damage to our environment. It's about as close to a victimless tax-rise as could ever exist.

Re:Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from Califo... by wkat4242 on Thursday August 22, 2024 @12:00PM (#41321677)
Biofuel-fueled jets aren't carbon neutral.

The building of the jets, the material extraction, the maintenance, the work around growing the fuels, the processing, the transportation, most of that is not fully sustainable.

It's only "less bad" for the climate crisis, not better. Definitely not perfect.

Re:Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from Califo... by anshumankmr on Friday August 23, 2024 @08:27AM (#41328408)
Something is better than nothing.
Re:Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from Califo... by alecco on Thursday August 22, 2024 @05:33AM (#41318337)
Taylor Swift demands Jack Sweeney stop tracking her jet - The Washington Post - June 2, 2024

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/02/06/taylor-...

Re:Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from Califo... by acatton on Thursday August 22, 2024 @07:36AM (#41319085)
To be fair, according to Jean Marc Jancovici, a specialist in energy, private jets only account for ~1% of the air travel emission. Mass air-travel has much more impact on the environment than a few private jets. Also, a big chunk of your average trip is for the middle class to go to all-inclusive hotels on the other side of the planet. But Jancovici still pushes for private jets to be banned, so that it sends the right message.

To be clear, I still think that commuting ~2,000 km in a private jet is being really privileged and incredibly out of touch with reality, especially if you run a company with some green washing. I just wanted to put things into perspective. The top 0.1% definitely are heavy polluters, but the global north also has to change its habits, regardless of the top 0.1%.

Re:Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from Califo... by lupusreal on Thursday August 22, 2024 @05:35AM (#41318350)
There are so few lords, it doesn't make sense for them to change their livestyles. But we peasants are numerous, so we are the ones who must suffer austerity and reduce our standard of living. That's why it's good for these rich people to fly around in private jets to attend conferences about the virtue of making common folks eat bugs and walk everywhere.
Re:Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from Califo... by bArray on Thursday August 22, 2024 @06:29AM (#41318621)
This isn't exaggeration either [1], 300+ jets to a climate meeting discussing how they will restrictively control our lives to reduce emissions. The people proposing these rules are unwilling to change their lifestyle to help the environment, meanwhile your neighbour Joe Bloggs drives his car because he has to get to work to pay for all of these green taxes, which he gets more tax for because he can't afford an electric car.

[1] https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2023/dec/opinion-why-are-people-s...

Re:Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from Califo... by zoklet-enjoyer on Thursday August 22, 2024 @06:27AM (#41318608)
Walking everywhere is great if you are able bodied and live in a place that is even halfway designed for it.
Re:Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from Califo... by lupusreal on Thursday August 22, 2024 @09:39AM (#41320160)
Having to walk limits your employment opportunities, particularly if you're not able to just pick up your life and move homes. It also limits which stores and other businesses you're able to reach; less competition means you end up paying more for goods and services. If you're a yuppy living this lifestyle by choice, able to change apartments on a whim and rent a car whenever you need to go to costco and able to shrug off higher prices in local shops anyway, then it's all good. But for the average member of the working class, quite possibly with a mortgage and kids in school, being forced into this kind of rootless urban pedestrian lifestyle is a raw deal.
Re:Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from Califo... by beej71 on Thursday August 22, 2024 @05:01PM (#41324367)
(I think I might be the only one in the world who actually prefers paper straws based on their qualities.)
Re:Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from Califo... by jasonmclaren on Friday August 23, 2024 @07:06PM (#41333861)
You may be interested in reading Nicholson Baker's novel The Mezzanine, where he wrote about preferring paper straws.

http://weblibrary.apeiron-uni.eu:8080/webdokumenti/6304-ip.p...