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Re:US judge throws out FTC's ban on non-compete agreements by collingreen on Tuesday August 20, 2024 @11:27PM (#41306503)
Is the implication here that if insurance is too expensive it is because of obamacare and nothing else?
Re:US judge throws out FTC's ban on non-compete agreements by koolba on Tuesday August 20, 2024 @11:44PM (#41306587)
It is because of the ACA. The people forced to buy policies on the individual market are being rated with those people that previously could only get policies from the high risk pool. So their costs are much higher than before, with higher deductibles, and going up every year.

In contrast, people with corporate policies are generally self insured so the per capital costs are lower. Really any company with more than a few hundred people is better off being self insured.

So yes it’s great for the minority that could not get insurance (outside of high risk pools) previously. But it’s purely at the expense of the healthy subsidizing them with overly expensive policies.

Its a really stupid system and of all the possible solutions they (the Democrats when they rammed it through Congress at the 11th hour) picked the one that provides the least actual healthcare and funnels the most money to insurance companies.

Re:US judge throws out FTC's ban on non-compete agreements by nl on Wednesday August 21, 2024 @12:08AM (#41306697)
> It is because of the ACA.

Linked elsewhere: https://www.kff.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Figure-1-12.p...

That's a pretty straight line, with no noticeable change because of ACA.

> But it’s purely at the expense of the healthy subsidizing them with overly expensive policies.

This is how insurance works.

The US needs a proper public healthcare system. Good luck finding a way to make that happen though.

Re:US judge throws out FTC's ban on non-compete agreements by koolba on Wednesday August 21, 2024 @06:42AM (#41308899)
> This is how insurance works.

The point is not about insurance in general, it’s the isolation of the individual market from the pools of large employers.

Yes the healthy will always be subsidizing the rest, but it’s a specific subset of healthy bearing that burden. It’s not the system as a whole.

> The US needs a proper public healthcare system. Good luck finding a way to make that happen though.

Ban corporate self insured policies so that the risk pools are unified to contain everyone.

Eliminate the deduction for offering insurance. Right now the same policy is cheaper if paid by the company as its pretax dollars (vs after tax dollars for an individual policy).

Re:US judge throws out FTC's ban on non-compete agreements by rqtwteye on Wednesday August 21, 2024 @10:37AM (#41310736)
"Ban corporate self insured policies so that the risk pools are unified to contain everyone."

There should be only state or nation wide risk pools.

Re:US judge throws out FTC's ban on non-compete agreements by ac29 on Wednesday August 21, 2024 @12:36AM (#41306834)
> people forced to buy policies on the individual market

The individual mandate has been gone since 2019.

Re:US judge throws out FTC's ban on non-compete agreements by irjustin on Wednesday August 21, 2024 @01:26AM (#41307030)
I'm quite naive, isn't the individual mandate being removed the reason why the premiums are going up? i.e. lots of healthy people stopped buying and thusly leaving only the expensive guys?
Re:US judge throws out FTC's ban on non-compete agreements by ceejayoz on Wednesday August 21, 2024 @10:49AM (#41310856)
Yes, that's a significant aspect of the problem now.

They were going up before, during, and post ACA mandate, though. They've been on an upwards march alongside the underlying per-capita healthcare costs for decades. https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/u-s-spe... ("Total national health expenditures, US $ per capita, 1970-2022" - $2k/year --> $13k/year per person)

Re:US judge throws out FTC's ban on non-compete agreements by ac29 on Wednesday August 21, 2024 @12:16PM (#41311665)
According to the latest data I could find, 2022 had the lowest rate of uninsured Americans on record: https://www.kff.org/uninsured/issue-brief/key-facts-about-th...

There were some pandemic era programs that increased the number of insured people, so it is possible things have changed since 2022. Either way, there is no evidence that the repeal of the individual mandate actually resulted in less people with health insurance.

Re:US judge throws out FTC's ban on non-compete agreements by koolba on Wednesday August 21, 2024 @06:36AM (#41308864)
By “forced” in this context I mean people who want to have health insurance but have no choice but to acquire it on the individual market.