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Re:Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet by Samuel_Michon on Monday June 18, 2012 @08:00PM (#4129312)
You mean a compact music player with a 2.5" HDD, room for 5GB of music, with 20 minutes of skip protection, a FireWire port for 50MB per second transfer, a click wheel for navigation, and a user friendly interface?

Yes, that was pretty novel in 2002.

Re:Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet by msbarnett on Monday June 18, 2012 @08:41PM (#4129559)
1.8" HD. All of the other MP3 players on the market until then had been using 2.5", which was why the iPod seemed so much smaller at launch.
Re:Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet by Samuel_Michon on Monday June 18, 2012 @09:06PM (#4129661)
You're right! I remember it being one size smaller than the other HDD players at the time. I thought it was the 2.5" that had just come out, but it was 1.8".
Re:Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet by cma on Monday June 18, 2012 @11:09PM (#4130054)
My iPaq had a 1.8" HD sleeve, played mp3s, and browed the web (with a different wifi sleeve..). Plus it had a sunlight readable display.
Re:Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet by coob on Tuesday June 19, 2012 @08:52AM (#4131502)
And where is it now?
Re:Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet by Turing_Machine on Monday June 18, 2012 @08:17PM (#4129430)
Yes, Apple is more about "making the first one that doesn't suck" than "making the first one".
Re:Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet by antidaily on Monday June 18, 2012 @08:34PM (#4129511)
The first ipod kinda sucked.
Re:Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet by rbanffy on Monday June 18, 2012 @10:14PM (#4129883)
Yeah... No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.
Re:Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet by jfoutz on Monday June 18, 2012 @08:16PM (#4129426)
No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.
Re:Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet by acangiano on Monday June 18, 2012 @09:07PM (#4129665)
Re:Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet by zacharycohn on Monday June 18, 2012 @08:29PM (#4129487)
I had an Archos before the iPod came out. A tiny bit bigger than the iPod would be, but a 30gb hard drive, usb 2.0, and a much better way to find music than a wheel.
Re:Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet by kenjackson on Monday June 18, 2012 @11:23PM (#4130078)
Archos killed the iPod. The iPod was one of the first times I distinctly recall thinking that actual fashion (like Vogue magazine) could trump pragmatics and technology in the tech sector.

A lot of people try to compete against Apple in design. Wrong. Apple isn't doing design, as much as they're doing fashion.

Re:Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet by polycom on Tuesday June 19, 2012 @02:16AM (#4130495)
If they were doing fashion, they would change to a new look every year. Remember the disappointment when the iPhone 4S kept the iPhone 4 design? Apple doesn't care about fashion, they care about good design.
Re:Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet by BHSPitMonkey on Tuesday June 19, 2012 @01:11PM (#4132906)
The first generations used what's called a touch wheel and buttons. The click wheel wasn't introduced until the 4th generation iPod.