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Re:X says it is closing operations in Brazil due to judge's ... by jsheard on Saturday August 17, 2024 @01:18PM (#41276096)
Regarding takedown demands, Twitter used to publish transparency reports on who was making them, but they stopped after Musk took over.

https://transparency.x.com/en/reports/removal-requests

In the final report 97% of all takedowns were made by Japan, Russia, South Korea, Turkey, and India (from most to least). They also broke down the number of takedowns against verified journalists and news outlets, which was led by India (114 takedowns), Turkey (78), Russia (55), and Pakistan (48), and Brazil was down the list with 8. It would be nice to have a more recent version of this report to see which way the tides have shifted.

Re:X says it is closing operations in Brazil due to judge's ... by TylerLives on Saturday August 17, 2024 @01:43PM (#41276335)
This might be misleading. If old Twitter was preemptively taking down posts that certain American or European organizations wanted taken down, this wouldn't show in the transparency reports at all. If you used the platform before and now, it's very obvious that that was the case.
Re:X says it is closing operations in Brazil due to judge's ... by Hamuko on Saturday August 17, 2024 @01:53PM (#41276434)
>If you used the platform before and now, it's very obvious that that was the case.

Does this mean that the source for this information is "dude, trust me"?

Re:X says it is closing operations in Brazil due to judge's ... by pessimizer on Saturday August 17, 2024 @07:38PM (#41278950)
And the thousands of documents that the Democrats, their administration, and US intelligence deemed "nothingburger" until they even became annoyed at repeating it over and over again nonsensically. What's the Brazilian government's term for "nothingburger?" Are they using the same terms that fascist Brazil (aided by successive Democratic administrations and US intelligence) used about disappearances and torture?
Re:X says it is closing operations in Brazil due to judge's ... by Hamuko on Sunday August 18, 2024 @02:26AM (#41280538)
That's a lot of words and yet I'm not any closer to the source of this information.
Re:X says it is closing operations in Brazil due to judge's ... by acchow on Saturday August 17, 2024 @01:34PM (#41276248)
In the context here, a takedown request would be preferred. It would indicate the judge being willing to accept a takedown in lieu of putting the poster in prison.
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Re:X says it is closing operations in Brazil due to judge's ... by spzb on Saturday August 17, 2024 @01:49PM (#41276402)
Having hate speech laws doesn't equate to the state giving takedown notices. More likely the individual will be prosecuted as has happened in the past few weeks of social unrest.
Re:X says it is closing operations in Brazil due to judge's ... by trte9343r4 on Saturday August 17, 2024 @02:14PM (#41276646)
But that is my argument! In UK takedown notices are given by some non-profit organization (not state), or are covered by TOS violation. But it is just censorship!

> in the past few weeks of social unrest.

Compare how social media handled recent UK protests, and "summer of love" riots in 2020!

Re:X says it is closing operations in Brazil due to judge's ... by mynameisvlad on Saturday August 17, 2024 @01:45PM (#41276357)
> and number of people imprisoned or punished is far greater than Russia or other countries.

Clearly not according to their source. Do you have any data to back up your claim?

Re:X says it is closing operations in Brazil due to judge's ... by trte9343r4 on Saturday August 17, 2024 @01:56PM (#41276474)
> In 2022, over 21,000 individuals in Russia were penalized for such “offences”, with 2,307 given administrative detention and the rest heavy fines

> in year ending March 2022, there were 155,841 hate crimes recorded by the police in England and Wales

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/07/russia-20000-...

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/hate-crime-england-...

Re:X says it is closing operations in Brazil due to judge's ... by mynameisvlad on Saturday August 17, 2024 @02:21PM (#41276686)
You’re comparing people penalized with number of recorded instances. Those are two wildly different statistics.
Re:X says it is closing operations in Brazil due to judge's ... by aguaviva on Saturday August 17, 2024 @02:31PM (#41276758)
One figure refers to recorded "crimes", the other to actual imprisonments.

Do you understand that the two are simply not comparable, and that there's obviously no analogy here? Even the alleged offenses aren't even comparable.

This isn't just one extremely basic logical fallacy you're making, but two.

Re:X says it is closing operations in Brazil due to judge's ... by Teocali on Saturday August 17, 2024 @02:03PM (#41276555)
> UK has hate speech laws, and number of people imprisoned or punished is far greater than Russia or other countries.

I call counter-bullshit. Provide some source with numbers.

Re:X says it is closing operations in Brazil due to judge's ... by katzinsky on Saturday August 17, 2024 @01:47PM (#41276367)
The UK went off the cliff around when Musk took over Twitter so it's not surprising they're not on the last report before then.
Re:X says it is closing operations in Brazil due to judge's ... by brightball on Saturday August 17, 2024 @05:15PM (#41278029)
Re:X says it is closing operations in Brazil due to judge's ... by jsheard on Saturday August 17, 2024 @05:44PM (#41278239)
Do they post aggregate stats about takedowns there? It seems like they just post ad-hoc information, which leaves a lot of room for editorialization. For example going into great detail about the Brazil situation, while on the other hand posting this extremely vague statement in response to Pakistan blocking X and then never following up with any further context about what's going on there.

https://x.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1780676243538452680

Have they ramped up censorship in Pakistan to appease the government? Who knows, they're not telling.

Re:X says it is closing operations in Brazil due to judge's ... by falleng0d on Thursday August 22, 2024 @05:31AM (#41318334)
The Brazilian courts specifically asks that the takedowns must be done in secret. I believe we can assume they are not being accounted for in these statistics.