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Re:Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers ... by Arainach on Saturday August 17, 2024 @12:04PM (#41275482)
That's absurd. It's also incredibly profitable to rob a bank or to dump chemicals in the river instead of properly cleaning them up, but that's not a signal the law is broken.
Re:Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers ... by ronsor on Saturday August 17, 2024 @12:20PM (#41275601)
You've missed the "if you have to ignore it to succeed" part of my comment.

You'll do fine without robbing a bank or dumping chemical waste (neither of which are profitable in practice now, as well). Meanwhile society is littered with so many small instances of copyright infringement (memes, which usually are not fair use; fan art; etc.) that it's common practice for rightsholders to look the other way - but it shouldn't have to be common practice, it should just be policy.

Also copyright infringement does not physically harm people.

Re:Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers ... by rbanffy on Saturday August 17, 2024 @12:51PM (#41275842)
> You've missed the "if you have to ignore it to succeed" part of my comment.

Breaking the law makes a lot of terrible business models instantly profitable.

Imagine I have a uranium refinement company. It is a colossal capital investment and not many companies do it. Law forbids me to sell weapons grade uranium for random people, but it just happens those very people are the ones who are willing to pay a lot of money for it as long as I don’t ask too many questions.

Re:Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers ... by sbarre on Saturday August 17, 2024 @12:48PM (#41275824)
> Also copyright infringement does not physically harm people.

Starving artists might disagree here.

Re:Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers ... by ryandrake on Saturday August 17, 2024 @12:49PM (#41275826)
How about slave labor? Definitely more profitable than paying employees. Is the law broken here, too?
Re:Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers ... by rbanffy on Saturday August 17, 2024 @12:52PM (#41275853)
Just look at the pyramids. Thanks to slave labour Egypt has now a reliable source of income from tourism. Let’s make it legal again.
Re:Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers ... by ryandrake on Saturday August 17, 2024 @12:55PM (#41275883)
LOL nice. The scary thing is it's hard to tell if this is sarcasm on HN these days. Some days reading this site, I think I've found someone who genuinely believes we should end all regulation because it's more profitable without.
Re:Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers ... by rbanffy on Sunday August 18, 2024 @04:32AM (#41281012)
It was sarcasm. I’m sure I’m not a sociopath.
Re:Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers ... by ronsor on Saturday August 17, 2024 @01:50PM (#41276412)
You don't need slave labor to run a business.
Re:Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers ... by Arainach on Saturday August 17, 2024 @02:03PM (#41276547)
Plenty of people have made that argument for a long time. They make it to this very day - "if we have to pay a living wage (or comply with safety regulations, or give benefits, or....) we'll go out of business!"
Re:Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers ... by danjl on Saturday August 17, 2024 @02:28PM (#41276741)
You can also run a business without being unethical
Re:Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers ... by highcountess on Saturday August 17, 2024 @12:22PM (#41275618)
Considering that it is solely a function of how influential, powerful, how much part of the aristocratic circle you are, or have bought them off that determines whether you are thrown in jail or are celebrated; by definition is is a clear signal that the law is broken.

Just because you can't rob a bank or pollute a river does not mean that the law is applied equally at all levels and, e.g., the government/Fed is stopped robbing our banks through inflation and debt, or the corporations they are beholden to are punished ro polluting and poisoning our bodies and environments.

Re:Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers ... by mistrial9 on Saturday August 17, 2024 @12:34PM (#41275702)
"the King, in his gracious majesty, has forbidden both rich and poor alike, from sleeping under bridges in the rain"
Re:Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers ... by fewhil on Saturday August 17, 2024 @12:51PM (#41275838)
The average (successful) bank robber gets less than $5000 in exchange for a substantial risk of going to prison for 10-25 years. It does not actually pay if you think ahead enough to do the math.