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Re:Hilary Mantel Reviews “A Life of One's Own/An Experiment ... by dang on Wednesday August 14, 2024 @05:23PM (#41250657)
If you guys want to go down an unusually interesting rabbit hole, the book Open-Focus Brain by Les Fehmi and (especially) the associated audio exercises, is all about this.

The exercises are something like guided meditations, but unique in my experience, and I never do exercises like that. It's a pity that his work isn't better known*. He died a couple years ago.

* Edit: although HN does not disappoint!

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12712532 (Oct 2016)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8721704 (Dec 2014)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8718142 (Dec 2014)

Re:Hilary Mantel Reviews “A Life of One's Own/An Experiment ... by 082349872349872 on Thursday August 15, 2024 @02:27PM (#41258982)
Interesting: it sounds like we do something similar with animals (training them not to close down their focus and fixate on things that might well, in a state of nature, be alarming, but don't really matter when living with people in a 21st century environment) but it's kind of hard to say while the Fehmi exercises are still in copyright...

EDIT: the pain relief part seems completely orthogonal to what I was talking about above, but the perception of attention and especially gaps in attention is something that one finds in japanese martial zen...

(for instance, the "3 pwns": the lowest level is to "pwn the sword", where you physically react quickly enough to counter an opponent's action; the intermediate level is to "pwn the technique", where by recognising the start of a technique one can predict where it will end, thus gaining time to counter; the advanced level is to "pwn the spirit", where by recognising where an opponent's attention lies one can predict what techniques they will attempt, thus gaining even more time...)

Re:Hilary Mantel Reviews “A Life of One's Own/An Experiment ... by dang on Friday August 23, 2024 @02:00AM (#41326491)
Belated reply here - I don't fully understand what you're saying but I did hear that Les Fehmi was an accomplished Zen practitioner and used to hang out with Leonard Cohen at Mount Baldy.
Re:Hilary Mantel Reviews “A Life of One's Own/An Experiment ... by zee_kristoffer on Wednesday August 21, 2024 @04:28PM (#41313931)
Are you still practicing them?
Re:Hilary Mantel Reviews “A Life of One's Own/An Experiment ... by dang on Friday August 23, 2024 @01:52AM (#41326474)
Yes—they're quite remarkable and I've not encountered anything else like them. But I wouldn't use the word "practice"—I'm more of a dilettante.

I listen to one of them (the 'head and hands' one) whenever I have trouble sleeping. Inevitably one of two things happens: either (1) I fall asleep, or (2) I end up in an expanded state—and either option is fine with me.

I have the impression that Fehmi was disappointed that he didn't win over more people to become serious practitioners. People would resort to his stuff when they were in a difficult place but they wouldn't necessarily practice it every day.

Re:Hilary Mantel Reviews “A Life of One's Own/An Experiment ... by 082349872349872 on Friday August 23, 2024 @07:03AM (#41327922)
> ...listen to one of them (the 'head and hands' one) whenever I have trouble sleeping

My father taught me an "instasleep" system that may(?) be related: basically you start distally and work proximally, becoming aware of any tension in body parts and allowing them to relax. When I do it I feel "myself" kind of "diffusing" to meet my environment, like fresh and salt water meeting to form a brackish zone, sometimes with a rocking sensation, and I usually fall asleep well before getting to core muscles. (when I was younger, people used to ask "how can you fall asleep on rocks?" to which I replied "you have to choose the comfortable ones", but it was likely more this technique)

The oddest thing about this technique is the source: although it sounds very Baba Cool, he'd been taught it in Uncle Sam's service.