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Re:What Facebook Knows by ryanwaggoner on Sunday June 17, 2012 @06:06PM (#4123984)
No one (or close enough to make no difference) would pay. Seriously, people may complain about ads but they have almost always proven that they prefer ads to paying, hence the reason the vast majority of media channels (tv, print, web, etc) are free with ads, or cheap and ad-subsidized. And not having 80-99% of people I want to friend (because they dont want to pay) would be death for a social network.
Re:What Facebook Knows by Estragon on Sunday June 17, 2012 @08:01PM (#4124243)
Now you mention it, it's kind of surprising that they don't offer premium accounts with no ads and strong privacy guarantees. I might even get back on facebook if they did that.
Re:What Facebook Knows by bishnu on Sunday June 17, 2012 @09:23PM (#4124416)
The problem with this is the people buying premium accounts are precisely the people advertisers are trying to target.
Re:What Facebook Knows by ryanwaggoner on Sunday June 17, 2012 @08:47PM (#4124361)
Selling both of those benefits draws a lot of attention to the fact that Facebook is making money from selling your attention and your data.
Re:What Facebook Knows by bokonist on Sunday June 17, 2012 @09:45PM (#4124475)
The freeness of tv is a relic of the broadcast era when it was impossible to charge for TV usage. People now pay for cable, and people long paid for print. People also pay for iphone apps. I think the freeness of the web is due to an accident/stupidity of the web browser creators in not building an easy, automatic payment system into the web browser itself, thus creating a considerable penny-gap problem.
Re:What Facebook Knows by fpgeek on Sunday June 17, 2012 @11:22PM (#4124787)
People don't really pay for print. Generally speaking, the fee that most print publications charge is more about qualifying their readers for advertisers (e.g. people who will pay money to read about X) than anything else.

See: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/16/magazine/16Journalism-t.ht...

"Advertising always accounted for the vast majority of the publishers’ revenues — with newspapers, 80 percent was the rule of thumb"

Re:What Facebook Knows by ryanwaggoner on Monday June 18, 2012 @12:31AM (#4124982)
Not sure who down-voted you, because while I generally disagree, you make a really good point...why the hell haven't browser makers built an integrated payments platform? They're probably better positioned than almost anyone to do so, and it would instantly turn all Safari, Chrome, and IE from weird strategic products into cash machines. And it would free Firefox from relying on the search engines for their revenue.
Re:What Facebook Knows by jrockway on Sunday June 17, 2012 @08:44PM (#4124351)
Why do most people pay for cable when the free channels provide more than enough content to occupy their time?
Re:What Facebook Knows by ryanwaggoner on Sunday June 17, 2012 @08:46PM (#4124358)
The majority of cable channels still have tons of advertising; consumers are paying for the channel, but I doubt the subscription fees are the majority of the revenue for the channel.

Regardless, it's a very different issue if your core value proposition is "using this is super useful and awesome because everyone you know is also using it". What would be the optimal pricing model for a TV network that was exponentially more enjoyable the more people were watching it? $0.

Re:What Facebook Knows by jrockway on Sunday June 17, 2012 @09:53PM (#4124508)
Doesn't matter. Even if the cable companies simply exchange your money for one dollar bills and burn them, you're still giving them money. So it stands to reason that if you can get people used to paying for individual online services (like they do for HBO on their cable), then it is not required that things be ad supported anymore.

I think the reason things are ad supported is because making money from advertising is really simply. You need one person at your organization to call an advertiser, and a day of his work can give you millions in instant cash. Customers, on the other hand, require a lot more maintenance and generate less money per individual, so scaling up a business based on customers paying money is very difficult. (Even Microsoft, a huge company that sells software, prefers to get OEMs to buy you a Windows license. One deal with one OEM equals millions of dollars. One deal with you equals $39.)

Re:What Facebook Knows by ryanwaggoner on Monday June 18, 2012 @12:37AM (#4125014)
So it stands to reason that if you can get people used to paying for individual online services (like they do for HBO on their cable), then it is not required that things be ad supported anymore.

Advertising isn't required; lots of services do fine without it, even some free ones that make money through other methods. I'm just saying that in general people seem to prefer paying with their attention to paying with their cash. If you can somehow shift that balance, then yes, advertising could go away. But I don't think that will ever happen, because people just don't value their attention and time like they do their cash. I think it's a side effect of human nature somehow.

Re:What Facebook Knows by fpgeek on Sunday June 17, 2012 @11:24PM (#4124794)
Among other things, because cable does a great job of obscuring what they're paying for. Bundles with Internet, phone and/or DVR service, time-limited promotions, ...